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T_montana
24-10-2011, 05:52 AM
Free Advertisement.
When people make orders or when you advertise on a forum of this scale.
Why not send out Tshirts, stickers, Business cards.
any advertisement is good advertisement.
also i know myself and other members would love to wear a cool Cigar shirt.
Just a thought.
T
JimJamYaHa
24-10-2011, 12:34 PM
Doea sound like a good idea perhaps qith orders over a certain price or repeat customers
TJCoro
24-10-2011, 01:20 PM
Senors :willy: knewbee, You're in the UK, no? I think you should check the laws there. I believe it's been mentioned before on this forum that such a practice is illegal in the UK (in association with tobacco products). I could be wrong, but that's my recollection.
:nerd: But on the other side of the pond, this is standard practice for many N/C vendors. So much so that many of my Yankee amigos :usa2: fill their closets with cigar freebees, such as shirts, jackets, and hats.
I've even have a freebie cap myself! http://smilys.net/party_smilies/smiley648.gifhttp://www.thetobaccoshop.com/afhat.jpg
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T_montana
24-10-2011, 03:48 PM
why would it be illegal TJ?
M1F2R3
24-10-2011, 04:06 PM
The Labour government cracked down on smoking advertising over their previous reign, for example Tobacco companies are not allowed to sponsor sporting clubs anymore, though it's a grey area when advertising a company rather than the product. In 2002, the Tobacco Advertising and Promotion Act was successfully passed (it has since been amended http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2006/2369/contents/made )
In regards to stickers, T-shirts and the rest of the suggested items, it's quite clear under the above act what is and isn't legal. Under s.2 of the above it states that Tobacco advertisement, which is forbidden, only applies when promoting a "tobacco product" which can be "wholly or partly tobacco intended to be smoked, sniffed, sucked or chewed". As long as the T-shirts and what-have-you don't actually advertise a specific product, under the law it's allowed.
Frederick.
TJCoro
24-10-2011, 05:23 PM
:hmmmm2: Interesting, senor Freddy.
What about providing such items for free in connections with a puro purchase. I was of the impression this practice was frowned upon on your side of the globe. :dontknow:
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M1F2R3
24-10-2011, 06:15 PM
:hmmmm2: Interesting, senor Freddy.
What about providing such items for free in connections with a puro purchase. I was of the impression this practice was frowned upon on your side of the globe. :dontknow:
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I honestly can't see how one can be successfully prosecuted for accepting a gift such as a T shirt from a company as long as the items are within the boundaries of the law. Though, what I've stated previously is factual, accurate and enforced it's up to Deano and the mods to determine what should be discussed on here.
Frederick
peanutpete
24-10-2011, 06:59 PM
I honestly can't see how one can be successfully prosecuted for accepting a gift such as a T shirt from a company as long as the items are within the boundaries of the law. Though, what I've stated previously is factual, accurate and enforced it's up to Deano and the mods to determine what should be discussed on here.
Frederick
Fred i do not think the issue would be excepting a gift,but it could be illegal for say our sponser to send out tobbaco related products
BTW how uncool would it to walk down the road in a A.fuente cap ok i suppose if your mexican but not for us Brits :p
M1F2R3
24-10-2011, 07:15 PM
Fred i do not think the issue would be excepting a gift,but it could be illegal for say our sponser to send out tobbaco related products
BTW how uncool would it to walk down the road in a A.fuente cap ok i suppose if your mexican but not for us Brits :p
That's my point, a sponsor sending out a tobacco related product (not compliant under the previously mentioned Act) would be illegal but a person accepting a gift which isn't advertising tobacco directly related isn't, T Montana innocently stated T shirts, stickers and business cards which, from reading the legislature, is legal as long as the advertisement is of the company and I will argue that with facts until the cows come home. I can see why this forum has rules in place, I for one fully support the rules and I hope the mods can declare their position on this.
T Montana, I think it's a great idea to get freebees such as stickers etc, it usually puts company x in favour of consumers by showing that the company is willing to be generous to it's customers.
peanutpete
24-10-2011, 07:28 PM
well i know our sponser sends out little gifts with your orders (matches,mints ect) but surely you do not want them to get in trouble by sending out stuff that may be illegal?
i do not think discussing this issue is aganst forum rules,we are lucky on this forum to have some members who work in the cigar world so it would be good to have there take on the legality on this
M1F2R3
24-10-2011, 07:39 PM
well i know our sponser sends out little gifts with your orders (matches,mints ect) but surely you do not want them to get in trouble by sending out stuff that may be illegal?
i do not think discussing this issue is aganst forum rules,we are lucky on this forum to have some members who work in the cigar world so it would be good to have there take on the legality on this
Of course not, I don't preach illegality! I was just stating my knowledge of the law (which some people may counter).
I'm not going to talk about the law or illegitimate activity anymore, if a sponsor wants to hand out freebees then I'll most likely opt in (what student wouldn't?) as long as legal clarity exists.
Kind regards,
Frederick.
TJCoro
24-10-2011, 08:10 PM
:nerd: Muchacho, I think you may have misinterpreted young Bag Boy's comments. His posts do not reflect the rules of this forum. He was merely discussing a topic that had been discussed here before regarding UK laws and gifts, i.e., hats and shirts, provided as inducements to purchase tobacco products.
As I recall, it had been suggested by a former member that 7871 Sam Leccia, inventor of the NuB, provide gifts to UK customers as is done in the US during promotion tours:thrasher:. And, as I recall, senor Leccia posted that it was prohibited under UK law. :dontknow:
http://www.pic4ever.com/images/129fs238648.gifNow, I'm not a country lawyer nor do I pretend to be one on this forum, but that's my recollection of a discussion that young Bag Boy was merely trying to share with you lads.http://www.pic4ever.com/images/4chsmu1.gif
My name is :bandit: TJ, TJCoro, and I am at your service.
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