Get It All Off Your Chest!

[Robusto]

Go on, then!

Here's an easy start:

An outright smoking ban in public places was a draconian attempt to stop tobacco in its shoes. Pubs and bars should have been allowed to opt IN to remain smoking establishments - and there should have been non-cigarette smoking bars in towns, too.

[daverave999]

I hate to derail the thread with the second post but I disagree completely with the first sentence. The Government would never try to 'stop tobacco in its shoes' simply because of the the ten billion quid plus per annum taxation it generates. I agree with the rest though. :D
More likely, this was an incompetent interpretation of European legislation that as I have recently seen, can be made to work elsewhere quite easily.

[whisky77]

Robusto,
not sure about the cigarette smoking bars in town, however i would agree that an individual should have the right to choose firstly if he wants to smoke, and secondly there should be a designated area in certain public places which would allow him to excercise these rights.
Unfortunately in this wholly PC country which we live in it seems that sometimes the minority exact their revenge on the majority by implementing these regulations, which have a direct effect on how people live/enjoy their lives on a day to day basis.If the same premis was instigated in relation to alcohol consumtion then i think the peasants would revolt.

Definately a case of the tail wagging the dog.

[RedRum]

My fiancee was involved in the company that did the research for the EU that lead to the ban... she did the Quality Assurance part. The thinking behind the ban is this: it is mainly for second-hand smoking and exposure of staff in smoking places. I agree with this reasoning, as I have worked as a waiter and bar staff when smoking was allowed. The concerns about the health of the smokers themselves, although very prominent, were second in importance in the report.

On the other hand, I am not sure (I will check) if you are allowed to have a proprietor's license, as in the US. If you are the owner of the establishment and you do not employ staff, you should be allowed to have a license for a smoking area. I want to the Occidental Bat at San Francisco, and it was like that (lovely place by the way). The two owners were working at the bar, they did not employ any staff.

[Robusto]

May I say we should change rants randomly?
I want to get on to Health and Safety legislation.

[nicwing]

OK so here's my rant, no reason why we shouldn't have three hares running..
About 4-5 years ago I went to Chelsea to see an international game at the invitation of a supplier. I have to say that what I saw there, in the corporate seats convinced me that I never wanted to go to another football game, ever. The pure hate, bile and the obscene langauge made me wonder why people pay a fortune for a season ticket.

My sister works in Football these days and pointed out the new FA respect campaign witha great advert featuring Ray Winstone, if you have missed it I suggest you go and find it on YouTube, it shows that the attitude I saw at Chelsea pervades to kids fotball.

Then today on the tube in London I saw a loutish dad with his teen age son in tow, giving lip to an eighty year old frail old women because she dared to mention that he had hit her with his bag, and he went on to abuse her.

I have come to the conclusion that it's the discusting behavior that emenates from football fans which is the poluter of this once great country and which is gradually bringing us all down. It extends to road rage and yobs on the streets of England.

How can the US have games as hard as Ice Hockey and American Football without the same malice being spread from the terraces into society at large?

Phew, got that one off my chest!

[daverave999]

Health and Safety legislation.
Good luck ;)

[Robusto]

Cheers Dave lol.

In the 80s and 90s, I took countless coach and minibus trips of schoolkids to France, Holland and Germany. I often drove the minibus myself from Kent. I made intelligent decisions about welfare and insurance cover.

In the naughties, if I need to take a minibus of kids to a competition at another school two miles down the road, I have to fill out risk assessment forms, I have to have the trip approved by the County Outdoor Pursuits team by submitting EVERY detail EVERY time to a malfunctioning website, I have to have letters that cover insurance and the need to have personal permission to tell a doctor he/she can inoculate a kid if necessary.

I have to take a full minibus driver's test regularly.

I don't know. It is probably for the better, but I'm tired of all the form filling, and I take kids out far fewer times on educational trips than I did on the past.

I had to give SIX :biggrin1: reasons on a health and safety risk assessment when I took some kids to Dover docks last year and the form said something like 'What would be the dangers to children if you took them to a dockside?'.

I'm not allowed to drive the minibus without another member of staff present, and it should be a woman.

I back all the anti-paedophile stuff, but is a drag to do all this.

[cj121]

The old risk assessment stuff, as Health and Safety in general, is a self perpetuating business isn't it: creating jobs, titles and revenue for all sorts of tw&ts that never existed before. No doubt fuelled by the litigious society we've had thrust upon us from the US "..No Win...No Grin" eh.

My part-time post working with da youth on the streets was plagued by risk assessment (RA) a few years back. The pressures to produce such has eased over the years as 'generic' RAs are applicable to certain 'off-site' activities and service providers often have their own.

I remember when things first started heating up (about five years ago) and it was RA this and RA that. We even had to consider the risks in going to a local park with young people, and we MET them in the park:confused:. Faarked up or what?

Nice pic Bryan BTW

[daverave999]

It's likely that very little is down to legislation. It's the insurance companies that dictate what you can and can't do, and what forms must be filled out before they will cover you. It's the compensation-culture that has brought this about, not a huge raft of regulation from HSE.

H&S law is pretty broad but not very prescriptive. If the law is so risk-averse, we'd never have anything as dangerous as nuclear power stations or the like would we?

I wanted to get THAT off my chest. :p

[G-man]

OK so here's my rant, no reason why we shouldn't have three hares running..
About 4-5 years ago I went to Chelsea to see an international game at the invitation of a supplier. I have to say that what I saw there, in the corporate seats convinced me that I never wanted to go to another football game, ever. The pure hate, bile and the obscene langauge made me wonder why people pay a fortune for a season ticket.

My sister works in Football these days and pointed out the new FA respect campaign witha great advert featuring Ray Winstone, if you have missed it I suggest you go and find it on YouTube, it shows that the attitude I saw at Chelsea pervades to kids fotball.

Then today on the tube in London I saw a loutish dad with his teen age son in tow, giving lip to an eighty year old frail old women because she dared to mention that he had hit her with his bag, and he went on to abuse her.

I have come to the conclusion that it's the discusting behavior that emenates from football fans which is the poluter of this once great country and which is gradually bringing us all down. It extends to road rage and yobs on the streets of England.

How can the US have games as hard as Ice Hockey and American Football without the same malice being spread from the terraces into society at large?

Phew, got that one off my chest!

Sorry to say there are fathers in The U S A that have been caught on tape at a peewee football game tackling the other team kid .All because he want his kid to win < Now thats fu_ked up. Go to a phillie Eagles football game and wear another teams jersey and more then likely U will get your ass handed to U. Not beat up but maybe put in the hospital.
Go to a baseball game and cheer for the other team and U will most likely wear all the food in the ball park home.
A nephew on my wifes side was comming home from school and was in his own yard when a pack of 12 Afro Americans attacked him because he was White , beat him up and hit him with a 1" x 3" across his back and head till he got to his front door and let the German Shepard out. There are more strories but I get so F_ckin pissed of when I think I need to have a licience for my dogs.And some people are allowed to Breed with each other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F_ck them.:rant:Sorry

[Boss Hog]

Sorry to say there are fathers in The U S A that have been caught on tape at a peewee football game tackling the other team kid .All because he want his kid to win < Now thats fu_ked up. Go to a phillie Eagles football game and wear another teams jersey and more then likely U will get your ass handed to U. Not beat up but maybe put in the hospital.
Go to a baseball game and cheer for the other team and U will most likely wear all the food in the ball park home.
A nephew on my wifes side was comming home from school and was in his own yard when a pack of 12 Afro Americans attacked him because he was White , beat him up and hit him with a 1" x 3" across his back and head till he got to his front door and let the German Shepard out. There are more strories but I get so F_ckin pissed of when I think I need to have a licience for my dogs.And some people are allowed to Breed with each other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F_ck them.:rant:Sorry

Dont apologise, that's what it's here for.
Count yourself lucky our "pack of 12's" carry knives and will shank you at the drop of a hat just for gang credits.

PS. " Go the Mets!!!, Yankees can kiss my arse!"

[G-man]

:jaw:NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a F up world.

[Robusto]

Internet Forums for musos.

Thank God we carry on soberly here. I've just read this on a musicians' forum and copied and pasted it. The whole thread is appalling, and I'm thinking of chucking it in.

This is just a snippet from one 'musician' to another:

Oh and wanker since you're blaming me for something I aint done I've passed on your House details on to the a splinter republican group who will be taking the measures they promised when that photo appeared on Redwatch a couple of years back. Aint life grand. It only took a phone call to find out where you live. Make threats be prepared for the backlash son. Oh and don't go running to the old bill either I've kept this thread as evidence if needs be. Watch your back son. Boom Boom!

I got my band place through this site, but any two-bit flautist starts to think he's on the set of Scarface.

[cj121]

Edited: Just done a bit of general research around that area and ooh, heavy stuff isn't it. All new to me that malarky.

Give it a wide berth mate.

[Robusto]

I know. I'm staying clear of those "debates" and will merely list when we're gigging at the Shit and Shovel from now on.

[Mr Moore]

The new 118 247 advert really gets on my nerves.
The bloody song is constantly swimming around my head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw_2IqWIpKk

:boxing:



Had to get that off the old hairy, yet invitingly supple chest !
:coffeepaper:

[cj121]

The new 118 247 advert really gets on my nerves.
The bloody song is constantly swimming around my head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw_2IqWIpKk

:boxing:



Had to get that off the old hairy, yet invitingly supple chest !
:coffeepaper:


:biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1: to all your above there MM. It sits there doesn't it, quite cheesy, but faargin catchy.

[daverave999]

The new 118 247 advert really gets on my nerves.
It's no Magical Trevor (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/magical+trevor/) though.

[Pantomimehorse]

fuckwitts that think the world owes them a favour... this silly bint in my office saying how shes going to give up work go on the dole and barter for the things she needs, trying to sell it as some way forward for the human race,

Moan number too the good for nothing layabout I saw at work today asking my charity for money cos he hasnt got a cooker and hasnt got a bed etc, I ask him for a bank statement to prove he is on benifits and what do I see, multiple cash point withdrawals from Las Vegas last week, the feckers just got back off holiday!!!!

[Mr Moore]

It's no Magical Trevor (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/magical+trevor/) though.

Wow Dave I didn't know it was stolen from a kids TV series.
Are you a magical Trevor fan Dave!!!!


:coffeepaper:

[Stogiedog]

Robusto you need to clear your PMs as I cannot send as there is not enough file space in your PM box!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:

[nicwing]

Robusto you need to clear your PMs as I cannot send as there is not enough file space in your PM box!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:

I've already told him, but he's having too much fun smoking stogies in Teddington, watch for what I predict will be a particularly happy post:

(To be said in a cod Geordie accent) Day 136 of Robusto's holiday and he's lollygagging in a leather sofa, no change there then, in a castle in Teddington.

[Stogiedog]

Kid in a sweet shop Nic:tongue:

[Robusto]

Not arf! Diary Room tomorrow!
I'll try throwing some of those biotches out of my limo later.

[Boss Hog]

I recently bought a bird feeder.. I hung it on my patio and filleds
it lovingly with seed. It was indeed a beautiful bird feeder. Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.

But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue. Then came the bird shit. It was everywhere; on the patio tiles, the chairs, the table, everywhere!

Then some of the birds turned mean. They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket.
And other birds were boisterous and loud. They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.

After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back garden anymore. So I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio. Soon, the back garden was like it used to be ... quiet, serene
and no birds demanding their rights to a free meal.

Now let's see ....
Brown & our government give out free food, subsidised housing,
free medical care, and free education and allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen.

Then the illegals came by the millions. Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for the free services; small flats are housing 5 or more families; you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by a doctor in an emergency surgery because it is filled with illegal non tax payers; your child's year 12 class is behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak English.

Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to 'press one' to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags other than 'The Union Jack' are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties.
Its just my opinion but: maybe, just maybe, it's time for the government to take down the bloody bird feeder.

[Stogiedog]

Boy, Hog Man you talk my kind of language my friend, could have not put it better.

Better post than the last one...:rock:

[Boss Hog]

Today my gripe is with people that do not talk the queens english, init!

I'll let you off if you werent born in the country. apart from that I dont want to hear
Right! or init? at the end of each sentance. yes I'm, guilty of typing wot or 4 u on texts and chat. there is an need and place for it. but you dont have to talk like it as well. You sound stupid!!! dont try and talk like your from the west indies either when 1. you dont even know where it is and 2. you've never been 5 miles from the deprived estate you were in-bred on and wear your cap the right way round, pull your trousers up, get a job talk properly and realise there is a bigger world out there.


Here endith the lesson.

This sermon was bought to you by the Reverend Hogg. :rock:

[Robusto]

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[Robusto]

More speed limit restrictions proposed in the news.

More roads to be reduced from 60mph to 50mph.
More roads to be reduced from 30mph to 20mph.

That means more doddery people driving at 40mph and 10mph and holding me up even more on the poxy roads hereabouts.

Annoying. :mad:

[Pantomimehorse]

Paying for plastic bags, went to WHSMITH today, was told its a penny a bag, now come on whats the bloody point in that? now charge a quid a bag and I can see the logic

[linfield100]

What pisses me off is the poor customer service in shops.
It's like they're doing you a favour just serving you.
I went in my local newsagents and the young serving wench was browsing the confectionary display.

I stood at the counter for a few minutes and she continued to ignore me.
"What are you doing?" I asked, getting frustrated.

"I'm hungry" she replied "An I'm trying to decide which chocolate to have"

Another time the wife and myself entered a coffee shop, and as I like strong tasty coffee, I looked at the different varieties on the chalkboard.
I asked the wench (Why are they always young dumb broads, cheap I suppose)
"Which coffee is the strongest?"
"The Black" she answered

I nearly wet myself.

Tony

[nicwing]

Hey Linf, I so agree with you about customer service.

It's strange that I have frequently heard us Brits being cynical about American customer service and the "have a nice day" attitude, but actually they work really hard and you generally get great customer service.

I say, vote with you feet. I ignore shops (and chains) where I get crap service as I dislike a ruck and I get angry like you and you never win.

[linfield100]

Hi Nic
Never been to America but i have to agree, they have the right attitude to customer service.
Some of our shops/supermarkets have more people wandering about filling shelves and taking stock counts, and people are waiting at the tills just wanting to get served and get home.

I hate shopping!!!

Tony

[Pantomimehorse]

feckin local hoody yutes using my solo herfing bench as their new cider drinking hang out, where are the old bill with their batons and cs spray when you need em eh?

[Alex]

Accordion players, now i love music but i walked through liverpool today and there is one on each corner playing bad versions of good songs

[Robusto]

Put a beret on and croon along, Alex. Pretend it's all music therapy on a psychiatric ward. Worked for me.

And Pant - Get down wit da kidz.

[Mr Moore]

Put a beret on and croon along, Alex. Pretend it's all music therapy on a psychiatric ward. Worked for me.

And Pant - Get down wit da kidz.


Brilliant..

[cj121]

Cyclists on pavements get my back up. Little uns excepted:smile:

[nicwing]

Accordion players, now i love music but i walked through liverpool today and there is one on each corner playing bad versions of good songs

I posted it already but just in case you missed it. The definition of a gentleman is someone who can play the accordion......but doesn't.

[Ramon]

Cyclists on pavements get my back up. Little uns excepted:smile:

Totally agree. Our High St is pedestrianised but you still get folk on bikes riding through all the shoppers. As with most High Streets these days it's all CCTV cameras, and signs up everywhere warning about smokers littering and a fine if you do.

The Police station, a nice shiny new one that cost a fortune to build, is right at the end of the high St. Do you ever see a copper walking the beat? Do you f*ck. All you might see is a police car outside a shop going to pick up a shop lifter.

In the village where I live, the pavements are quite narrow. But you still get adults riding bikes on them. They also like to park their cars on the pavement, rather than the road, leaving a tiny gap to squeeze through between the car and a wall. Or you have to walk on the road.

The other thing we get on pavements around here is horses. Now if dog owners have to carry a pooper scooper to pick up any dog dirt, what about these feckers that leave massive piles of the stuff behind.

[Pantomimehorse]

Ramon

ref the horse shit, ive allways wondered why they cant just strap a nappy of some kind to their arse, problem solved surely?

[Ramon]

Ramon

ref the horse shit, ive allways wondered why they cant just strap a nappy of some kind to their arse, problem solved surely?

Would that be to the horse or the rider? :biggrin1:

[nicwing]

The bycycle is the future guys so you really need to get with the program.

Now that we have hit peak oil it's all down hill for the car and don't think electric cars are going to save us because the next thing is electricity costing a fortune because it's all going to be made out of coal and they have to figure how to capture the carbon and put it in bloody great tanks at the bottom of mines.

I think you should send out a little love to those cyclists maan, they are not doing any harm, they are not poluting the environment, they are getting fitter and saving the tax payer a fortune on heart attack victims and the overweight lardies (like me) who now populate our green and pleasant land.

Wake up and smell the Puro mates, hug a cyclist today and just think when there are no cars you can walk in the road and leave the pavements to them! :p

[Pantomimehorse]

Both?

[Ramon]

I've nothing against cyclists, (though they do look ludicrous in their lycra), as long as they follow the highway code and stay off the pavements. Pavements are for pedestrians, which include the blind, old and infirm. If they hit anybody with their bike and injure them, since very few cyclists have public liability insurance, do they fancy paying a personal injury claim for years?

[Mr Moore]

Coldplay.
I can't stand that whiney bas##rd Chris Martin.
His music is shi#e and apitimises everything that is wrong with the music industry as a whole !

"They span a web for me la de da"... Do me a favour mate !!!!!!!!!!
Can't you just f##k off Mr Martin and take all those crap sounding whiney mushy bands with you... In fact I heard you have a large following in a lovely place called the helman province, so look it up in your sat nav and get on your bike !!

Wow, now thats off my chest I feel much better.
Sorry about that.

[nicwing]

Phew Mr Moore, I felt the draught of your ire all the way down here in Arkley on Sea.

[Boss Hog]

Why does this government insist on funding the lifestyle of scumbags, immigrants and chav kids and letting the anyone into the country for free plus medical expenses but turn away men who fearlessly fought in one of British Armys bravest regiments.
Who are they? The Gurkha's
They have shown utter devotion to serving this country and preserving it's freedom in all of our conflicts for the last 200 years, yet they are denied the right to settle on british soil. The fact they have served should give them automatic right to live here, after all they fought for it more than any snivelling lazy chav on free benefits and a house ever would.

That's better.

Plus their cigars arent bad either!!

[Ramon]

If you want to help the Gurkha's sign up here http://www.gurkhajustice.org.uk/

[Boss Hog]

If you want to help the Gurkha's sign up here http://www.gurkhajustice.org.uk/


Already done it thanks

[nicwing]

You are so right Boss, what is it about Politicians that they can get it so wrong?? 3 or 4 houses paid for out of my taxes for sitting around smoking in the House of Commons and drinking in bloody subsidised bars (also paid for out of my taxes) and they make a commitment to men who have fought and died for this country and then when they think we are all looking the other way, they go back on it.

It makes my blood boil.

And well done Ramon, I have signed up and I hope everyone else does too!

[nicwing]

Bloody hell, I just got an email from Joanna Lumley for signing up, there's lovely!

[Mr Moore]

Good lord, look at this little English fellow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYX_zhlTDr8

[cj121]

Already done it thanks
Me too.
It's a faarked up situation for these folk eh. Put your bum, fiercely, on the line for Q&C and get snubbed.
Not good and not fair:mad:

[nicwing]

Just listen to the interview on this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8062786.stm

"It's the Government's fault for introducing a freedom of information act and messing up the system"

I'm too angry to even type F**&^% little S&i*

:eviltongue::eviltongue::eviltongue:

[Robusto]

Love it that he thinks the whole episode is like Coronation Street. :biggrin1:
He's got that wonderful toff's weak R.

As in kanga-woo court.

For US members: The UK is having a right old time at the moment over politicians with their feet in the trough.

You'll be none the wiser there...

[Robusto]

Evan loses it over the duck house...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8062000/8062852.stm

[Mr Moore]

Poor old Anthony Steen, funny though.
Apparently some MPs are going to be committing suicide over the next few weeks.
Somehow I think that statement is slightly off center, we all know MPs are all for self preservation.

It must be a little scary being an MP at the mo and knowing the pitch forks are being sharpened and the torches lit.

The Witch hunt, or should we say;
Night of the long knives.

[nicwing]

Question Time last night was like watching bear baiting, if you didn't see it go find it on the iPlayer. There was one women in the audience who would not let them get away with ignoring her question, and spouting the usual clap trap and the chairman just let her go and she came back again and again, they looked like rabbits caught in the headlight.

About time too self riteous b&£!@£)S

See my web site www.iwouldliketoseeanmpstuffedlikeaduckandrentedou tinsoho.com (http://www.iwouldliketoseeanmpstuffedlikeaduckandrentedou tinsoho.com)

[Mr Moore]

Yeh I saw it Nic, it was great.

[Rennie]

Waited 1/2 hour in KFC last night for a bargain bucket??????

I thought KFC was supposed to be fast!!!!

AND!!!!! they forgot the popcorn chicken.:mad:

Ok got that off my chest.

[G-man]

Some Bargin Rennie!
If U calculate what U charge an hour at work devide it by 2 = ?
That bargain bucket was very $. LMAO:eek:
What in the hell did we do befor fast food? KFC heart attack in a bucket.LOL:eek:
Once in awhile I have a craving for KFC but always resist .:p

[Rennie]

Thats funny!:smile:

Smokers talking about heart attacks! Why resist something you enjoy and surely a whole bargain bucket for yourself (one per month) can't be that bad for you......................Can it? :eviltongue:

[G-man]

Oh so bad for me! U have no idea.
Doctors orders no fried food.:(
Use to love fast food .I cut myself and noticed my blood was like corn syrup ,clotting befor it ever got past the cut. Test results 270 bad c and 5 for the good c.
Stroke waiting to happen.
No fried food for this fellow,just cigars.LOL

[Boss Hog]

Now here's a thought . . . . If you are ready for the adventure of a
lifetime, try this:

a.. Go to Pakistan , Afghanistan or Iraq illegally.
Never mind immigration quotas, visas, international law, or any of that nonsense.

b.. Once there, demand that the local government provide free medical care for you and your entire family.

c.. Demand that all nurses and doctors be fluent in English, and that all food be cooked according to your special specifications in the hospital.

d. Demand free local government forms, bulletins, etc. be printed in English.

e.. Procreate abundantly.

f.. Deflect any criticism of this allegedly irresponsible reproductive behaviour with, 'It is a cultural thing; you wouldn't understand.'

g.. Keep your original identity strong. Fly your previous country's national flag from your rooftop, or proudly display it in your front window, or on your car bumper.

h.. Speak only English at home and in public, and make sure that your children do likewise

i.. Demand classes on English culture in the Muslim school system.

j.. Demand a local country driver license or national insurance number equivalent

k.. This will afford other legal rights and will go far to legitimise your unauthorised, illegal, presence in Pakistan ,Afghanistan or Iraq

l.. Drive around with no motor, tax or insurance and ignore local traffic laws.

m.. Insist that local country law enforcement teaches English to all its officers..

n.. Organise protest marches against your host country, inciting violence against non-white, non-Christians, and the government that let you in.

Good luck! See how long you last.

[Stogiedog]

Hog your honking my kind of language mate.................:hail: