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Simon-JG-hr
27-07-2009, 10:07 PM
Do we have any homebrewers on here?

I've always thought about giving it a go, but I've finally decided to take the plunge! A conversation with TJ:01 led to the conclusion that alcoholic ginger beer is almost impossible to find nowadays. So that shall be my starting point - the catalyst, so say, that will get me to buy the kit, and thence I can continue.

Provided I don't manage to blow the house up... I shall probably be giving a nice, hoppy pale ale a shot after the ginger beer.

:beer:

Deano
27-07-2009, 10:24 PM
Sounds great. My Dad always has something on the go, never done it myself, but wouldn't mind a go. Especially something like that, sounds very interesting.

Simon-JG-hr
27-07-2009, 10:29 PM
If he's got any tips for suppliers... ;)

I've found this site (http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/), which seems to have quite a good selection of kit at different levels/qualities. Nice cheap stuff to start with I think. Small batches, plastic tubs. Lovely... :biggrin1:

Who knows, if I'm any good, I might start brewing stuff specifically with the characteristics to match a favoured cigar. :849:

Robusto
27-07-2009, 11:50 PM
Alcoholic ginger beer! That sounds fantastic!

Drewmidorn
28-07-2009, 12:18 AM
I had a biology teacher who was a home brewer. He had a batch that went wrong and turned into a kind of alcoholic marmalade. He used to have it in his sandwiches.

D

the mothman
28-07-2009, 07:48 AM
Ive made my own cider before, have been considering doing some more. I followed an old poachers recipe that was very simple in what you needed and time taken. Mind you once id stored in in bottles and corked em' I think I had at least 3 explode, bloody sticky everywhere. Next time round I wont leave it so long before drinking it, the strength started around 9% and dwindled a bit as it settled, most people liked it for some too sweet. Good luck if you give it a bash simon,ginger beer sounds good.

daverave999
28-07-2009, 07:56 AM
Alcoholic ginger beer sounds great! Herf at yours when it's done? :biggrin1:

I've made wine years back but that didn't turn out great, and I made some alcoholic lemonade from a pouch of powder which turned out mind-bendingly good. A whisky-glass full of this stuff would put you on the floor. I'm sure the active component wasn't just alcohol...

[EDIT] I've just re-read this and feel the need to point out the pouch of powder was specifically for brewing alcoholic lemonade, and not some added ingredient that made the brew 'mind-bendingly good'.

Seriesteve
28-07-2009, 08:46 AM
Strange
I just made up my first ever this last week, got the kit including Malts
Mixing Tub, Beer finishing Keg, Gas, Everything you need to get going 60.00
So it sat 6 days in the tub and transferred it to the Keg for now another 16 days.
"Aye got my Fingers Crossed"
Here's where I got mines from
http://www.thethriftyshopper.co.uk/brewer/ProductList.aspx?categoryID=3

HabanoSy
28-07-2009, 03:29 PM
Alcoholic ginger beer! That sounds fantastic!

I second that...

Give us a shout when the brew is ready Simon.

Looking forward to this...!?!

Cheers, HabanoSy

cohibaIV
28-07-2009, 06:31 PM
Do we have any homebrewers on here?

I've always thought about giving it a go, but I've finally decided to take the plunge! A conversation with TJ:01 led to the conclusion that alcoholic ginger beer is almost impossible to find nowadays. So that shall be my starting point - the catalyst, so say, that will get me to buy the kit, and thence I can continue.

Provided I don't manage to blow the house up... I shall probably be giving a nice, hoppy pale ale a shot after the ginger beer.

:beer:

Something I have always wanted to do, and my Grandad was bloody good at making real ale according to me Dad..

Go for it mate, then I will be able to get some tips of ya...:rock:

Simon-JG-hr
29-07-2009, 01:54 PM
I've been reading a Homebrewing Wiki recently, to try and get where I need to be to start off, and loved this quote, apparantly there are two camps of homebrewers:

Many homebrewers like to "geek out," getting very involved in the details of their beer. Others prefer a more laid-back, seat-of-the-pants approach.
I'd like to fall into the latter category, but I think the research I've been doing rules me out, even if I don't really fall into the former.

butternutsquashpie
30-05-2013, 11:09 PM
Do we have any homebrewers on here?

Urge to revive this post is too strong! :focus:
I don't really brew as i'm not too into beers as much. But my mate who is taking Food Sciences in another major in my uni has now moved to Jamaica to brew his own batch (hasn't graduated yet though) I can toss the idea of "alcoholic ginger beer"to him if he's not already doing it :rolleyes:

As for me, grain vodkas i would make. I also have always wanted to try my hand at making my own Gin. Your country's gins (beefeater, Bombay Sapphire, etc) just doesn't hit the spot for me :(. Now that my lavender and jasmine plants are coming out, i'll distil out the oils of those plants and use it to flavour my own gin. Can't wait!!!! :cheers:

Puff Scotty
31-05-2013, 08:03 AM
Your country's gins (beefeater, Bombay Sapphire, etc) just doesn't hit the spot for me :(.

That's because they are London Gin's..Plymouth Gin's are the one's to try...:smile:

butternutsquashpie
31-05-2013, 01:01 PM
That's because they are London Gin's..Plymouth Gin's are the one's to try...:smile:

Weve only one here...... Plymouth English Gin,
Good? Bad? Acquired?

alec_brickie
31-05-2013, 01:28 PM
How did the ginger beer turn out? I brew alot of cider and wine and think a cold pint of cider you've made yourself can't be beaten.

It's so easy and cheap I don't know why more people don't do it. I can make a pint of cider for around 25p and 35p for a bottle of wine

daniel2001
31-05-2013, 01:34 PM
Weve only one here...... Plymouth English Gin,
Good? Bad? Acquired?

Best of the big name gins (lived in Plymouth for many years, and spent rather a lot of very happy hours at the Plymouth Gin Distilleries cocktail bar).

Edinburgh Gin is very nice, as is the Botanist Islay Gin.

Simon Bolivar
31-05-2013, 02:01 PM
Traditionally mixed with Water not Tonic, of course:cool:

butternutsquashpie
31-05-2013, 02:08 PM
Traditionally mixed with Water not Tonic, of course:cool:

I too. Am curious on the ginger beer.

Also, botanist is made by bruichladdich!! Thats got me sold. Done :). It's also a seasonal quantity here too.
I normally drink gin straight but the 46% bruichladdich churns out might be a tad harder........ Haha

Simon-JG-hr
31-05-2013, 04:11 PM
How did the ginger beer turn out?Rather potent... Very potent is probably a better way of putting it... Pretty strong alcohol and jolly fiery! Was delicious. Decided to try some of it through a soda stream and then chill it... Lovely with the sun out (did lose a certain something though).



Weve only one here...... Plymouth English Gin,
Good? Bad? Acquired?On the Gin front... Plymouth Gin is currently the only gin being produced which meets the necessary standards to be called a Plymouth Gin. I too am not a massive fan of the London Gins (I will, of course, drink them quite happily though...) If you can get your hands on it, the Plymouth Navy Strength is the one to get your hands on. 100% proof (57.15% abv) to ensure that if it were spilled on gunpowder, back in the day, it would still ignite. It keeps the smooth aromatic properties of Plymouth, but has a little more about it. If you like more floral aromats, have you tried Hendrick's? Another Scottish Gin (to add to those already mentioned by others - though more mainstream than them), the use of cucumber and rose petals adds a little twist.

butternutsquashpie
31-05-2013, 04:41 PM
On the Gin front... Plymouth Gin is currently the only gin being produced which meets the necessary standards to be called a Plymouth Gin. I too am not a massive fan of the London Gins (I will, of course, drink them quite happily though...) If you can get your hands on it, the Plymouth Navy Strength is the one to get your hands on. 100% proof (57.15% abv) to ensure that if it were spilled on gunpowder, back in the day, it would still ignite. It keeps the smooth aromatic properties of Plymouth, but has a little more about it. If you like more floral aromats, have you tried Hendrick's? Another Scottish Gin (to add to those already mentioned by others - though more mainstream than them), the use of cucumber and rose petals adds a little twist.

Ah, see, i don't know my gins. The navy strength one is both hilarious and exciting. If I'm ever out of the country, I'll make sure to pick myelf out some of it.
However, right now I'll try the botanist as i it's a seasonal thing here in our gov. liquor stores :(. Same with the bourbon i need to get.
And thats interesting! :) my current recipe for gin has rose pedals in it :). I just go in my garden and pick out random stuff that smells nice.

CigarInspector
25-09-2013, 02:54 PM
The‘art of homebrewing’ as my friend calls it, is definitely apassionate hobby. It seems to be taking over the US and Canada he says with guys developing huge home breweries that can brew up to 50 gallon batches, although most do 15 gallon batches apparently. He says the way to go is ‘all grain’ and not liquid malt.

fordi
25-09-2013, 05:33 PM
You cannot go wrong at all with Real Ale. Living in Sheffield we are absolutely blessed with micro breweries and I cannot get enough of it.

mattyhall22
06-12-2013, 07:31 PM
I've just started to get into Home brewing, I've just bottles 23L of my first beer and have a batch of Stout in the fermenter.

If we get a summer next year I will hopefully have some decent home brews to enjoy with my cigars :clap2:

fordi
07-12-2013, 05:26 AM
I've just started to get into Home brewing, I've just bottles 23L of my first beer and have a batch of Stout in the fermenter.

If we get a summer next year I will hopefully have some decent home brews to enjoy with my cigars :clap2:

I will second that. Just had a quote to start brewing myself and cannot wait to get started.

ValeTudoGuy
07-12-2013, 09:27 AM
Are we talking full mash or extract brewing here? Extract is a decent introduction, but mash is the way to go.... What do you mean by quote fordi? What kit are you looking at?

fordi
07-12-2013, 11:56 AM
Full mash fella through a Speidel Braumeister. Not for the purist and yes it's expensive but will give a better chance of success with less to sterilise.


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Sgt_Banter
07-12-2013, 01:11 PM
I do brewing with extract. There is a brand called Heart of England that have a series of bases, malts and hops that you can customise to design your own brew. I cba with full mash because I'm lazy if I'm honest

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mattyhall22
07-12-2013, 02:51 PM
I'm just dabbling with extracts at the moment and may go onto AG eventually, it seems like with cigars it starts as a simple hobby but then becomes an obsession! :smile:

fordi
07-12-2013, 09:04 PM
I took the advice "Buy the biggest humidor you can.." and applied it to my brewery.


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Sean
07-12-2013, 10:36 PM
Always thought of doing this myself theres a company in liverpool that provide you with a starter kit

Sgt_Banter
08-12-2013, 06:28 AM
Always thought of doing this myself theres a company in liverpool that provide you with a starter kit

After the initial 50 investment for the gear, it works out as less than 50p a pint and you can make some decent beers. It well worth having a go

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ValeTudoGuy
08-12-2013, 10:36 AM
Well worth a go, it's a fun experiment if nothing more! The starter kits are good because you can use the same kit for wine and cider. Tinned fruit and fruit juices can make some surprisingly decent beverages! As can many root vegetables and whole fruits.... Not to forget honey to make mead.

If anyone wants recipes for most styles of beer, wine, cider or mead, I a more than happy to provide you with them as I have collected loads and loads over the years.

One quick tip for making much better extract brews is to forget, sugar and even beer enhancer. If possible use a second tin of liquid malt extract and I guarantee you will instantly notice the improvement in your brews.

Nice looking bit of kit that fordi, I'm in the planning stage of building a 5 gallon gravity fed micro brewery.

ValeTudoGuy
08-12-2013, 10:42 AM
Oh and for you guys considering extract brewing, go down to your local Wilkos as they have a reasonable extract brewing section and tend to be cheaper than most home brew specialists for the basic stuff.

Anything by Muntons or Coopers is decent quality and woodfordes wherry is a particularly good extract kit.

Sean
08-12-2013, 11:07 AM
After the initial 50 investment for the gear, it works out as less than 50p a pint and you can make some decent beers. It well worth having a go Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk

Wow very cheap think might look into it in the new year

ValeTudoGuy
08-12-2013, 12:29 PM
Once you get into full grain, total grain cost forgetting equipment can run you as little as 30p per pint for a pub quality beer. If your the type to do 50 gallon batches, you can get that down to around 20p due to bulk buying savings.

But obviously mash brewing is more expensive to get set up, the end result simply can't be compared though!

EdBlackadder
19-01-2014, 10:47 AM
I got into homebrewing last summer and have 4 batches under my belt, all extract kits as I have time and space limitations. Got all my kit bar my second FV for ~30 as Dunelm were clearing their brewing kits. Great fun, started with a Cooper's ale kit and I have to say the beer was OK but it was so foolproof it really helped me build the confidence to push on. I bottled it in PET bottles which didn't hold the gas brilliantly so I've switched to glass for much better results. Using a lot of Woodforde's kits as they've really impressed me in the flavour stakes. I need to do an inventory of stock & bottles and sit one of my professional exams then I can crack on with my spring/early Summer beer. It really helps to build patience as the rewards of letting even a mediocre Cooper's kit mature for 3 months were incredible.

One quick question, I've been using VWP as steriliser which is pretty great and cheap as but it would be mildly more convenient to have a non-rinse steriliser. Anyone have any good recommendations for a cheap alternative?

Also I'd highly recommend http://www.creativewinemaking.co.uk/ for kits, they're the local store and they've given great service and advice to two generations of my family now.

ValeTudoGuy
19-01-2014, 11:42 AM
I mostly use Bruclens which I believe is basically VWP, I have also used Milton sterilising tablets. I keep meaning to try Videne which apparently all chemists can order in for about 4.50 a 500ml bottle and considering the dilution rate it 2.5ml to 2000ml it will go a bloody long way...... At that price, I won't care about rinsing!

mattyhall22
19-01-2014, 01:13 PM
I use VWP not had any issues with it, however a lot of people rave about StarSan which is a no rinse sanitizer to make things quick and easier :)

I've just conditioned a Woodfordes Wherry which is very nice, I think my next brew will be "Bulldog brewery" "evil dog" which is a 7.1% Double IPA :biggrin1:

EdBlackadder
19-01-2014, 03:53 PM
Not tried the Wherry but heard good things. I've fallen a bit in love with their Admiral's Reserve though, lovely kit. Going to try Nelson's Revenge in the next brew. I've still 200g of VWP so will have a look when I finish that.

ValeTudoGuy
21-02-2014, 05:56 PM
A homemade Merlot I bottled in 2010 has just come good and is going down a treat.

PeeJay
21-02-2014, 06:07 PM
A homemade Merlot I bottled in 2010 has just come good and is going down a treat.

Homemade wine, homemade beer, home smelting, you are so New Age. When are you going to start rolling?

ValeTudoGuy
21-02-2014, 06:10 PM
Homemade wine, homemade beer, home smelting, you are so New Age. When are you going to start rolling?

It gonna happen at some point. :)

searsa1
22-02-2014, 12:15 AM
Can you legally make distilled spirits yourself in the UK?

ValeTudoGuy
22-02-2014, 12:31 AM
Can you legally make distilled spirits yourself in the UK?

Nope, but it's a stupid law. You can legally buy the equipment, you can legally distill alcohol for other uses e.g making aftershave/perfume.

But technically by the letter of the law you can't distill alcohol for human consumption.

In reality, would anyone know you were doing it? Nope. Would 99% of police officers or other legal officials even know what a still was? Nope
Heck you can distill in you freezer.

Edit: for clarity, you can apply for a license and jump through hoops but as far as I am aware it's not likely to be granted without lots of legwork.

butternutsquashpie
22-02-2014, 05:07 AM
Nope, but it's a stupid law. You can legally buy the equipment, you can legally distill alcohol for other uses e.g making aftershave/perfume.

But technically by the letter of the law you can't distill alcohol for human consumption.

In reality, would anyone know you were doing it? Nope. Would 99% of police officers or other legal officials even know what a still was? Nope
Heck you can distill in you freezer.

Edit: for clarity, you can apply for a license and jump through hoops but as far as I am aware it's not likely to be granted without lots of legwork.
basically, that's the same in any country that taxes alcohol and tobacco. you 'can' make your own booze, cigars, and cigarettes as long as you're not selling them. no one will fine you if you're using it for personal consumption.

ValeTudoGuy
22-02-2014, 09:05 AM
The UK government will tax you On any homemade tobacco product even if for own use that I am aware of. They don't tax alcohol for own use.

Disclaimer: This is all to my knowledge, please don't anyone take my words a legal advice. Do your own research if your planning to do anything.

ValeTudoGuy
22-02-2014, 06:20 PM
I may be the new owner of this. :41:

PeeJay
22-02-2014, 06:22 PM
I may be the new owner of this. :41:

And it is.....?

cigarmo
22-02-2014, 06:25 PM
And it is.....?
a cheese grater :tongue:

ValeTudoGuy
22-02-2014, 06:34 PM
A cigar mould!

PeeJay
22-02-2014, 06:34 PM
A cigar mould!

Good buy!

ValeTudoGuy
22-02-2014, 06:42 PM
A couple more shots.

butternutsquashpie
22-02-2014, 07:02 PM
A cigar mould!

good or bad mould?
:cool:

cigarmo
22-02-2014, 07:05 PM
All you need now is a tobacco field :rock:

ValeTudoGuy
22-02-2014, 07:10 PM
All you need now is a tobacco field :rock:

I have found a company that will ship me whole leaf, I think it would break the rules to link it though. I need to clarify what the tax rules are.... I don't think it's a clear as rolled sticks.

cigarmo
22-02-2014, 07:12 PM
Looks like you have it sorted, cant wait to try one!!:biggrin1:

butternutsquashpie
22-02-2014, 07:17 PM
I have found a company that will ship me whole leaf, I think it would break the rules to link it though. I need to clarify what the tax rules are.... I don't think it's a clear as rolled sticks.

methinks it's classified as "misc tobacco" along with pipe tobacco.

sheppsea
22-02-2014, 08:22 PM
I need to clarify what the tax rules are.... I don't think it's a clear as rolled sticks.

That's a scary thought - I have a number of times tried to figure out the tax laws and have never been able to make head or tail of it! :der:

mattyhall22
23-02-2014, 09:26 AM
That's a scary thought - I have a number of times tried to figure out the tax laws and have never been able to make head or tail of it! :der:


That's how the powers that be want it, so they can do what ever they want and make money off everyone grrrr :mad:

cigarmo
23-02-2014, 10:03 AM
I think if you import leaf in leaf form it is no duty, but as soon as you process it duty tax vat apply. Wait till they start taxing the air you breath!!!!!

ValeTudoGuy
23-02-2014, 10:12 AM
I think if you import leaf in leaf form it is no duty, but as soon as you process it duty tax vat apply. Wait till they start taxing the air you breath!!!!!
I think your right Mo, I think it's just treated as an unprocessed raw product. For all they know you could be importing it for insect repellant.

cigarmo
23-02-2014, 10:21 AM
We need to send a buyer to cuba!!!

butternutsquashpie
23-02-2014, 01:38 PM
We need to send a buyer to cuba!!!

a round trip from here is only $500 for 4 days-3 nights at a "3 star hotel" during non-primetime
might be a good idea as that includes food, lodge, and drink! :biggrin1:

plus 3 stars is alright. some insect repellent and it'll be like 5 star in no time! never the princess, am i :rolleyes:

mattyhall22
06-03-2014, 01:00 PM
Back to topic lol

I've just started brewing this - Bulldog EvilDog double IPA should work out to 7.1% :)

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Just the waiting game now :)


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Sgt_Banter
06-03-2014, 01:19 PM
My wheat beer will be ready to try now. It's been resting in the bottles for 6 weeks

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mattyhall22
06-03-2014, 02:00 PM
My wheat beer will be ready to try now. It's been resting in the bottles for 6 weeks

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The waiting is the worst bit, but it is worth it :41:

Sean
06-03-2014, 02:25 PM
My wheat beer will be ready to try now. It's been resting in the bottles for 6 weeks Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk

Ukcf samplers mate

DannyBoy
06-03-2014, 04:57 PM
I really need to get back in to my home brewing. I tried a few ciders a couple of years ago, all were foul! Then tried a lager or two, they also didn't come out very well. Maybe time to try some ale lol

mattyhall22
06-03-2014, 05:02 PM
I really need to get back in to my home brewing. I tried a few ciders a couple of years ago, all were foul! Then tried a lager or two, they also didn't come out very well. Maybe time to try some ale lol

There are some really good kits out there, Woodfordes Wherry is a popular one, the Bulldog brew kits are really good and very easy to do :smile:

DannyBoy
06-03-2014, 05:06 PM
There are some really good kits out there, Woodfordes Wherry is a popular one, the Bulldog brew kits are really good and very easy to do :smile:

I think it was a woodfordes I looked at last week. When I packed it in I wasn't really an ale drinker which has changed some what since then :)

Do you bottle yours or keep it in kegs?

ValeTudoGuy
06-03-2014, 05:34 PM
I really need to get back in to my home brewing. I tried a few ciders a couple of years ago, all were foul! Then tried a lager or two, they also didn't come out very well. Maybe time to try some ale lol
If your doing Cider, don't use a kit. Just buy a few bottles of innocent Apple juice when it's on offer..... It makes great cider that's ready to drink in a couple weeks.

EdBlackadder
06-03-2014, 05:35 PM
The Woodforde's kits are aces, have a Nelson's Revenge on at the moment.
Also have Munton's Midas Touch on too and its kinda sticking at about 1.016, leaving it just about 3.75% ABV which is quite a bit lower than its supposed to be.

mattyhall22
06-03-2014, 05:40 PM
If your doing Cider, don't use a kit. Just buy a few bottles of innocent Apple juice when it's on offer..... It makes great cider that's ready to drink in a couple weeks.


I made up something similar to help out a friend, who wanted to get into the hobby, that didn't have any of the normal equipment. Thinking that it might be a useful thing to try for people who haven't yet spent any money on buying proper equipment, and want to try it out to see if it's for them.

There's nothing worse than going and spending 100s on things for them to gather dust in a loft so here goes.

Home brew Equipment Required:

None


Supermarket "equipment" & Ingredients Required:

2x 5L Bottles of water (approx 1.10ea in Asda)
4L Apple Juice (Smart price AJ is 62p per litre in Asda)
1L Juice of your choice (Ranges from 62p to 2, I would recommend pomegranate, 1 in Asda, for your first go)
Splenda (for back sweetening)
Sugar (for priming)
1 small funnel (1 in Asda)
9x 500ml screw cap PET bottles (Any used fizzy juice bottle will work fine:- coke, fanta, sprite, irn bru, etc.. all ideal)
2x teabags
1 sachet of cider yeast (Ebay 1.60 delivered)
1 tsp of bovril or tomato paste (this is optional, if you don't have it don't worry)

You can switch out the 9 PET bottles for glass fizzy juice bottles if that's what you have. Larger PET bottles can also be used but if you want fizzy cider then pouring out the contents without ending up with yeasty cider is going to be difficult.


Instructions:

Store your juice at room temp (Important for your yeast).
Make a strong cup of tea 20 minutes before you start, use 2 teabags and just allow them to steep until ready for them.
Drink/Ditch the 5L of water from your first bottle (Leave the other one as is for now)
Pour the "your choice" juice into the newly emptied bottle (use funnel)
Pour in 3L of the apple juice (Keep the last carton for later)
Pour in your tea (the hot tea will bring the temp up a few degrees, ideal for pitching. The 20 minute wait is to be sure it isn't TOO hot)
If you have it add in a tsp of your nutrient (bovril or tomato paste)
Take out the funnel, put your very clean hand over the end and give everything a right good slosh around
Open up your packet of yeast and sprinkle it in (just ditch the lot in there, don't bother keeping any for later... that will come with experience)
Watch the yeast re-hydrate and fall into your newly mixed juice.
Once it's all under the surface and sufficiently hydrated put your, very clean, hand over the end and give it all a good slosh around
Put it somewhere that's out of direct sunlight and going to be as close to room temp as you can find (20 degrees is ideal, no more than 23 and no less than 18)
Place the lid on top but do not tighten it on at all, not even 1/4 turn, it must be able to lift off at will. These bottles are notorious for expanding and they "seal" very easily (been there, wiped up the mess).
Leave for 5 days, you can look at it.... but don't touch it. Just let it do its thing. You will see bubbles, and foam and things happening. You can even have a sniff around the lid to see what smells are being made.
After 5 days top it up with your last carton of apple juice and then leave it for a further 5.


After your 10 days are up it's time to move to secondary:

Empty your second water bottle
Put, clean & cold tap water rinsed funnel in it
Decant the newly made cider into your clean bottle. Do so as carefully as possible and leave as much of the sediment as you can behind (the murky stuff in the bottom).
Place back where you had it with the cap sitting on top again
Forget about it for 5 days
After 5 days move it to somewhere cool and allow it to clear (could take a couple of weeks, just leave it if you can).


After your cider is clear it's time to bottle, back sweeten and prime (if required):

Thoroughly clean and rinse your bottles out with cold tap water (caps too)
Rinse again, with tap water, immediately before use and try to store them as close to inverted as you can (draining board or something) prior to use.
Add 1 very slightly heaped tsp of sugar and 1 very slightly heaped tsp of splenda to each bottle*
Using your funnel gently decant from your 5L bottle into each bottle until approx 1.5" from the top.
Your first few bottles should be spotless, the later may not be so clean (a bit murky) but don't worry... it'll fall out during conditioning.
Put the lids on all the bottles and give them a gentle shake to mix in the sugar and splenda
Store at room temp (around 20 degrees) for 2 weeks then move to somewhere cool for at least the same again (keep them upright)
Move to your fridge for a day or so (again, upright)
Open, pour (leaving the sediment behind, careful here) and see what you think

* I'm assuming that you want a fizzy cider, you want it medium/dry (Strongbow ish) and that you are using 500ml bottles. Sugar and Splenda quantities will need to be adjusted to meet your needs. If you need any help just ask.

All credit for the above to ScottM from the homebrewforum :biggrin1:

mattyhall22
06-03-2014, 05:41 PM
The Woodforde's kits are aces, have a Nelson's Revenge on at the moment.
Also have Munton's Midas Touch on too and its kinda sticking at about 1.016, leaving it just about 3.75% ABV which is quite a bit lower than its supposed to be.

Give it a really gentle stir without splashing (you do not want to put oxygen into the liquid) to see if it kicks the yeast back into action. :smile:

ValeTudoGuy
06-03-2014, 05:54 PM
Good recipe there Matty, if you want to mix things up a bit then replace all sugars with 3 jars of pure honey to make Apple cyser which is half way between cider and mead.

ValeTudoGuy
06-03-2014, 05:58 PM
Oh and if you want a safe way to seal the bottle without investing in a proper air lock.... Get a condom (sterile) poke a pin hole through it and put it on the top with an elastic band. It will expand when it fills with co2 which will protect your brew, but excess pressure will escape via the pinhole.

DannyBoy
06-03-2014, 06:02 PM
If your doing Cider, don't use a kit. Just buy a few bottles of innocent Apple juice when it's on offer..... It makes great cider that's ready to drink in a couple weeks.

The cider kits all tasted very chemically and were such a let down. I will definitely give this a go though.

ValeTudoGuy
06-03-2014, 06:32 PM
Cloudy Copella makes a really refreshing yet tart cider too.

DannyBoy
06-03-2014, 06:44 PM
Cloudy Copella makes a really refreshing yet tart cider too.

I tried making a turbo cider with cloudy apple juice, man was that sour!

ValeTudoGuy
06-03-2014, 07:29 PM
You have to back sweeten like Mattie said. :)

I quite like it sour though, sometimes I freeze distill into applejack and it's pretty badass.

DannyBoy
06-03-2014, 07:54 PM
Completely missed mattys post, bloody tapatalk!

In going to give this a go over the weekend. I've got a load of brewing kit in the loft but will follow this word for word :) thank you.

EdBlackadder
06-03-2014, 08:37 PM
Give it a really gentle stir without splashing (you do not want to put oxygen into the liquid) to see if it kicks the yeast back into action. :smile:

Already done that a couple of times. Dropped to 1.015 so we'll see how much farther its gone tomorrow.

mattyhall22
07-03-2014, 07:37 PM
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ValeTudoGuy
07-03-2014, 09:38 PM
You inspired me to open a bottle of cider I made last year from apples I grew myself mixed with some wild crabapple I picked.

Sean
08-03-2014, 04:43 PM
You inspired me to open a bottle of cider I made last year from apples I grew myself mixed with some wild crabapple I picked.

That looks so fresh mate

ValeTudoGuy
08-03-2014, 05:55 PM
That looks so fresh mate

Very tart and quite refreshing. Almost flat but that's what I was going for, I actually in hind sight think this one would have benefited from some carbonation.

EdBlackadder
08-03-2014, 07:14 PM
Just finished bottling 36 pints of Woodforde's Nelson's Revenge. The ones in the cardboard box are going under the stairs, the other dozen into the cupboard. Will have 3 weeks then I'll crack one and see how the carbonation is.

The Munton's Midas Touch is well and truly stuck despite stirring. Thinking about pitching some more yeast and a little nutrient in to see if that'll help it. Keeping it in the sealed fermenter anyway and its still producing a occasional bubbles through the air lock.

Either way its going to be a good summer of beer!

Sean
08-03-2014, 07:59 PM
Very tart and quite refreshing. Almost flat but that's what I was going for, I actually in hind sight think this one would have benefited from some carbonation.

To me mate i love ciders like that i hate them when there to gasy

ValeTudoGuy
20-03-2014, 11:23 AM
16072Just got these through from Matty, looking really good! Going to let them settle a bit and then get them drunk.... Really looking forward to it!

Matty, gimme a couple day and I will get something on the way back to you.... Been really hectic at work at the mo.

mattyhall22
20-03-2014, 11:34 AM
No probs :smile:

I hope they don't take too long to settle, I was tempted to put "Don't shake" on the box, but I could imagine the warehouse lads having competitions to see how hard they could shake it lol :biggrin1:

mattyhall22
22-03-2014, 05:59 PM
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Bottled up the Evil dog IPA earlier and its worked out about 8.3% !!! Needs couple of months to condition :)

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Just enjoying some of my lager, happy days :)


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Sgt_Banter
22-03-2014, 09:39 PM
My last brew hasn't turned out very well really. It tastes ok but it's quite flat. I think the fermentation has been affected by the temperature in the new flat

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ValeTudoGuy
22-03-2014, 11:31 PM
Having now sampled one of Matty's beers, I can confirm that he certainly knows his way around a home brew..... Lovely stuff Matty! :cool:

mattyhall22
23-03-2014, 09:01 AM
Thank you very much :smile:

mattyhall22
23-03-2014, 09:02 AM
just need to learn how to roll cigars and make chocolate to become self sufficient :cowboyic9:

Sean
23-03-2014, 09:24 AM
U taking orders mate :-)

cigarmo
23-03-2014, 09:39 AM
Did some one mention chocolate uuuuuummmmmmmmm doughnut

mattyhall22
23-03-2014, 10:19 AM
U taking orders mate :-)

If I ran a brewery I would be bankrupt in weeks, I can't leave the product alone, in fact if I ran a cigar shop or chocolate shop it would be the same result, no stock and no takings lol, work days would be awesome tho :party: :41::cheers:

ValeTudoGuy
23-03-2014, 11:16 AM
If I ran a brewery I would be bankrupt in weeks, I can't leave the product alone, in fact if I ran a cigar shop or chocolate shop it would be the same result, no stock and no takings lol, work days would be awesome tho :party: :41::cheers:


Same here! Making chocolate is a great idea, I will have to look where you get raw beans from. :)

In other news, I'm currently pricing up some tobacco leaf to make some test runs of my first rolls. :)

Sean
23-03-2014, 11:52 AM
Same here! Making chocolate is a great idea, I will have to look where you get raw beans from. :) In other news, I'm currently pricing up some tobacco leaf to make some test runs of my first rolls. :)

That will keep good mate get a thread started when they arrive

mattyhall22
27-03-2014, 07:26 PM
Got some labels on the evil dog now http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/28/uju8upev.jpg

Just got to leave it conditioning for a few weeks now, I hate waiting lol :)


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PeeJay
27-03-2014, 07:35 PM
I divorced the evil dog thirty years ago!

mattyhall22
27-03-2014, 07:36 PM
I divorced the evil dog thirty years ago!


PMSL :biggrin1:

cigarmo
27-03-2014, 08:05 PM
Whats IP?

mattyhall22
27-03-2014, 08:25 PM
IPA indian pale ale, nice and hoppy :)


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ValeTudoGuy
27-03-2014, 08:26 PM
Whats IP?

India Pale, it's a style of ale that became popular with British and Indian troops during the imperial days... It's an ale but it's light and refreshing like lager, yet more flavourful like bitter... I generally like them! :)

ValeTudoGuy
27-03-2014, 08:27 PM
Got some labels on the evil dog now http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/28/uju8upev.jpg

Just got to leave it conditioning for a few weeks now, I hate waiting lol :)


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cigarmo
27-03-2014, 08:27 PM
Interesting I didn't see any in India :41:

ValeTudoGuy
27-03-2014, 08:30 PM
Interesting I didn't see any in India :41:

It's more popular in the UK, it was Pretty much all made in the UK and sent over I believe.

Like Russian imperial stout, it's not Russian at all... It's English but was made to export to Russia hence got that name. :)

Sean
27-03-2014, 09:18 PM
India Pale, it's a style of ale that became popular with British and Indian troops during the imperial days... It's an ale but it's light and refreshing like lager, yet more flavourful like bitter... I generally like them! :)

Love a gOOD IPA

mattyhall22
28-03-2014, 09:34 AM
The troops and staff out in India wanted something safe and refreshing to drink, the brewers added loads of hops as they acted as a preservative for the beer on the long journey over to India.

Burton made great IPA's as the well water was high in the right minerals to give it the distinctive taste and aroma :smile:

ValeTudoGuy
28-03-2014, 09:44 AM
The troops and staff out in India wanted something safe and refreshing to drink, the brewers added loads of hops as they acted as a preservative for the beer on the long journey over to India.

Burton made great IPA's as the well water was high in the right minerals to give it the distinctive taste and aroma :smile:

I have read on more than a few occasions that burton water is considered the best in the world for brewing due to its mineral content.

mattyhall22
28-03-2014, 10:22 AM
It is very high in gypsum, most breweries now "burtonize" their water by adding the minerals to it, the Burton breweries still draw the water up from the old wells. :-)


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ValeTudoGuy
28-03-2014, 10:36 AM
It is very high in gypsum, most breweries now "burtonize" their water by adding the minerals to it, the Burton breweries still draw the water up from the old wells. :-)


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We have a problem with "Gypsums" up here too, always raiding your garden for valuable minerals..... Oh wait that's something else all together? :rolleyes:

mattyhall22
28-03-2014, 01:10 PM
Pmsl :)


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ValeTudoGuy
29-04-2014, 12:21 PM
Anyone got anything brewing? I'm going to do a couple kits I have laying around when I can be arsed to get all my gear out and clean it all!

L-Ski
29-04-2014, 03:43 PM
Doesn't really count but I have 2 bottles of Mamajuana brewing. :D

PeeJay
29-04-2014, 03:47 PM
Doesn't really count but I have 2 bottles of Mamajuana brewing. :D

That could have been interesting after autocorrect!

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L-Ski
29-04-2014, 03:49 PM
Lol! Yeah it's amusing how many people think you mean Mary j.

ValeTudoGuy
29-04-2014, 04:06 PM
Doesn't really count but I have 2 bottles of Mamajuana brewing. :D

Well done, you got me using Google! :) It certainly does count. I have a Rhumtopf with almost 5 years On it that I keep forgetting about! Lol

mattyhall22
29-04-2014, 04:19 PM
I'm cool conditioning a "Yorkshire terrier" bitter than had a bit of tweaking and I have done another treacle stout, that is currently warm conditioning under the stairs.

My evil Dog has turned out really well, nice and hoppy with a citrus refreshingness to it :smile:

mattyhall22
29-04-2014, 04:23 PM
Doesn't really count but I have 2 bottles of Mamajuana brewing. :D

"Some recipes are said to include sea turtle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_turtle) penis for aphrodisiac effect" :date:

L-Ski
29-04-2014, 04:30 PM
Allegedly so. Don't think there is any in mine though. :D

ValeTudoGuy
29-04-2014, 04:59 PM
"Some recipes are said to include sea turtle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_turtle) penis for aphrodisiac effect" :date:
Mmmm....

EdBlackadder
29-04-2014, 05:01 PM
Allegedly so. Don't think there is any in mine though. :D
I would hope that you'd be certain about such a thing!

I've picked up a couple of stout kits and some to play with, got a Midas Gold and Admiral's Revenge ageing under the stairs too.

Oh and if anyone is after any gear or a basic kit there's 25% at Wilko's at the moment.

PeeJay
29-04-2014, 05:10 PM
I've picked up a couple of stout kits and some to play with

Had to re-read that one carefully!

16806

EdBlackadder
29-04-2014, 05:38 PM
Had to re-read that one carefully!

16806
Filthy mind! The missing word was treacle.

ValeTudoGuy
29-04-2014, 05:40 PM
I would hope that you'd be certain about such a thing!

I've picked up a couple of stout kits and some to play with, got a Midas Gold and Admiral's Revenge ageing under the stairs too.

Oh and if anyone is after any gear or a basic kit there's 25% at Wilko's at the moment.

25% Off is Good as their prices are already cheap. Is that On the actual beer kits or just the accessories?

mattyhall22
29-04-2014, 07:27 PM
25% off some of the kits as well as accessories. Their pilsner lager kit with pack of spraymalt comes in quite reasonable :)


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L-Ski
29-04-2014, 07:44 PM
Just had a cheeky taste of mine, I'd say it's done, so that's been bottled and the next batch started. Will be having one or two at the weekend for sure!

EdBlackadder
29-04-2014, 09:24 PM
25% off some of the kits as well as accessories. Their pilsner lager kit with pack of spraymalt comes in quite reasonable :)


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Pretty much everything it seems. Check the website, they haven't adjusted the prices but they will at checkout.

Went looking for the Cooper's Stout but they didn't have any in Derby so I went with the Wilko's Velvet Stout. Going to brew the first can short to about 18L with an extra pound of treacle in addition to the brewer's sugar. Heard its a nice kit but a bit thin and watery so that might make the difference. Just need to find a free day, now.

ValeTudoGuy
29-04-2014, 11:09 PM
25% off some of the kits as well as accessories. Their pilsner lager kit with pack of spraymalt comes in quite reasonable :)


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Looks like that's where I'm headed tomorrow!

ValeTudoGuy
29-04-2014, 11:11 PM
Pretty much everything it seems. Check the website, they haven't adjusted the prices but they will at checkout.

Went looking for the Cooper's Stout but they didn't have any in Derby so I went with the Wilko's Velvet Stout. Going to brew the first can short to about 18L with an extra pound of treacle in addition to the brewer's sugar. Heard its a nice kit but a bit thin and watery so that might make the difference. Just need to find a free day, now.

I might copy you! The treacle stout I had from Matty was the first I have had and it was lovely.

mattyhall22
30-04-2014, 05:43 AM
Ed one can of treacle will probably be enough for the stout kit, any more and it will be overpowering. Brew enhancer or spraymalt will give the beer better body and mouthfeel than just using sugar. :)


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EdBlackadder
30-04-2014, 06:02 AM
Ed one can of treacle will probably be enough for the stout kit, any more and it will be overpowering. Brew enhancer or spraymalt will give the beer better body and mouthfeel than just using sugar. :)


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Yeah I know that buy they didn't have any in the store and my homebrew shop opens odd hours so I won't make it in before I get a brew on. Plus experimenting is fun!

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mattyhall22
30-04-2014, 06:11 AM
Yeah I know that buy they didn't have any in the store and my homebrew shop opens odd hours so I won't make it in before I get a brew on. Plus experimenting is fun!

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Yup experimenting is the best bit, how about using chocolate syrup for the priming? I want to do a winter one with blackberries in like the burton bridge bramble stout :)


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EdBlackadder
30-04-2014, 06:13 AM
Yup experimenting is the best bit, how about using chocolate syrup for the priming? I want to do a winter one with blackberries in like the burton bridge bramble stout :)


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I might try that with the next batch, got a pair of everything since it was cheap as hell.

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ValeTudoGuy
30-04-2014, 08:26 AM
Yup experimenting is the best bit, how about using chocolate syrup for the priming? I want to do a winter one with blackberries in like the burton bridge bramble stout :)


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Blackberry and Treacle stout! Now that's an idea!

L-Ski
30-04-2014, 08:31 AM
I would hope that you'd be certain about such a thing!



You'd think, wouldn't you! ;)

Nigel
01-06-2014, 08:37 PM
I brew my own Real Ale. All fresh grains and hops. Works out 25p a pint. And it's bloody beautiful. If anyone fancies taking the plunge, Im here to help and advise.

EdBlackadder
01-06-2014, 10:35 PM
Impressive! I'm a kit brewer myself (space and time limitations prevent much more) but one day I might make the leap.

Just started my next brew, actually. Wilko's Velvet Stout brewed short at 18L with a pound each of dextrose, medium spraymalt and treacle. Going nicely in the spare room, kinda excited about this as its my first stout.

mattyhall22
02-06-2014, 05:45 PM
I intend to go to Ag three vessel at some point, just need to sort out space and cash for it :smile:

EdBlackadder
05-06-2014, 09:52 PM
So just tried to stout out the trial jar. Pretty tasty already, if a little watery in the mouth. Should still have a way to ferment yet though, plus the secondary, so that will hopefully change.

ValeTudoGuy
06-06-2014, 12:10 AM
I intend to go to Ag three vessel at some point, just need to sort out space and cash for it :smile:

Let me know when you do, I have a good home brew contact who builds three vessel kits for pretty good money.

ValeTudoGuy
06-06-2014, 12:14 AM
Forgot to say 5gallon craft brewery, hand built for 240 ish.

Though he will build bigger and regularly does all sizes up to about 17 gallon.... Prices start to sour though.

tommy
06-06-2014, 07:22 AM
Forgot to say 5gallon craft brewery, hand built for 240 ish.

Though he will build bigger and regularly does all sizes up to about 17 gallon.... Prices start to sour though.

I've never made beer because I like to do everything from scratch (hate kits, extracts and any just add water stuff). I've never really looked into the home brew beer making process before because so much kit is needed. Having just done some reading into this method I really fancy having a go. I think if I made some nice beer I could make a pretty decent whisky too. I really need an oak barrel before I distill again, I want a used wine barrel but they're way too big so the first step is gonna be to make some red wine and age it in the barrel so that I have a barrel fit for ageing whisky or brandy. Seems a long process but I can't think of another way to get hold of a small used wine barrel. By small I mean 25l size.

ValeTudoGuy
06-06-2014, 09:25 AM
I've never made beer because I like to do everything from scratch (hate kits, extracts and any just add water stuff). I've never really looked into the home brew beer making process before because so much kit is needed. Having just done some reading into this method I really fancy having a go. I think if I made some nice beer I could make a pretty decent whisky too. I really need an oak barrel before I distill again, I want a used wine barrel but they're way too big so the first step is gonna be to make some red wine and age it in the barrel so that I have a barrel fit for ageing whisky or brandy. Seems a long process but I can't think of another way to get hold of a small used wine barrel. By small I mean 25l size.

Just get the hand made Italian barrels off of ebay... well priced and if your ageing wine then when you do brandy etc. you will have already conditioned it yourself.

Honestly all grain is pretty easy, all you need to try it out is a 24l cool box and a big stock/jam pan (Turkey pan in the US, very cheap at Asian markets).... with that you can do up to 5 gallon on your hob if you really wanted.... I wouldn't recommend it though, lifting that much hot water is precarious at best.

1 gallon and 2.5 gallon batches are pretty simple though.

ValeTudoGuy
06-06-2014, 09:32 AM
I have had good AG results with just these two items. An immersion chiller is worth its weight in gold though, but they can be made cheaply or bought quite cheap anyway.

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SmokeyDave
06-06-2014, 10:08 AM
Ooh how did I miss this thread!

I love Stout, may just have to give this a go :biggrin1:

Any recommendations on a good starter kit?

ValeTudoGuy
06-06-2014, 10:28 AM
Ooh how did I miss this thread!

I love Stout, may just have to give this a go :biggrin1:

Any recommendations on a good starter kit?

The Youngs/Wilkinson's starter kit is probably the best place to start.

As for Extract: Coopers, Tooheys, Muntons, St Peters, Woodfordes and Milestone are all quality.

Tom Caxton, Geordie, Black Rock, Burton Bridge, Bulldog, Brupaks and John Bull are Decent.

Youngs and Wilko are a bit Meh.

All the single can kits can be vastly improved by using a second can of (Un-hopped) Malt extract... or in a pinch just a second identical can and brewing to 40 pints, this will give much much better results than brew enhancer... though brew enhancer/brewers sugar, will give infinitely better results than normal sugar, please DON'T EVER use normal sugar, it gives the beer an off taste.

ValeTudoGuy
06-06-2014, 10:44 AM
I just realized I may have misunderstood you. If your asking what the best Stout kits are, then the Coopers Standard Stout is good and probably what I would experiment with, the Coopers Brewmaster Irish Stout really is worth the extra few quid though if your drinking as is.

The best kit stout is a toss up between Milestone Black Pearl and Muntons Gold Imperial Stout.... yes they are getting on for twice the price of the Coopers kits, but they are two can kits and really the end result speaks for itself.

Matty is a good one to talk to though, he has really really nailed his Treacle Stout recipe! Bloody moreish stuff..... quite excellent.

mattyhall22
06-06-2014, 10:58 AM
Forgot to say 5gallon craft brewery, hand built for 240 ish.

Though he will build bigger and regularly does all sizes up to about 17 gallon.... Prices start to sour though.

Marc that is a really good price, Is that for electrically heated or gas? I will be interested after september (after the wedding) :)


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mattyhall22
06-06-2014, 11:03 AM
I have some more samples to send to you marc, I'll get them off in the next week or so :)

Smokeydave the coopers stout kit is really good, it comes with a good hard working yeast and ferments out really well. As Marc said one can kits need either a can of malt, a box of brew enhancer or 1.5kg of DME (dry malt extract). Adding just a kilo of sugar thins the beer out, you lose body and mouth feel.

The St peters cream stout is a really good "two can" kit, you dont need to add anymore fermentables to it, again it has a good yeast strain :-)


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ValeTudoGuy
06-06-2014, 11:08 AM
Marc that is a really good price, Is that for electrically heated or gas? I will be interested after september (after the wedding) :)


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Electric.... Or Gas. Either really. :)

ValeTudoGuy
06-06-2014, 11:11 AM
I have some more samples to send to you marc, I'll get them off in the next week or so :)

Smokeydave the coopers stout kit is really good, it comes with a good hard working yeast and ferments out really well. As Marc said one can kits need either a can of malt, a box of brew enhancer or 1.5kg of DME (dry malt extract). Adding just a kilo of sugar thins the beer out, you lose body and mouth feel.

The St peters cream stout is a really good "two can" kit, you dont need to add anymore fermentables to it, again it has a good yeast strain :-)


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Sounds great, my mouth is watering!

I have never tried the St Peters Stout... though if its like their other stuff it will be excellent! I have a Ruby Red Ale kit that I really need to get round to making.

tommy
06-06-2014, 12:38 PM
Ooh how did I miss this thread!

I love Stout, may just have to give this a go :biggrin1:

Any recommendations on a good starter kit?

That is so clever, I though I was being smart with my pressure cooker still! Thanks for the info, I'm gonna do it, I already have the stuff.

tommy
06-06-2014, 12:40 PM
Are the kits really that good? I've done various wine kits and all have been crap, first batch if completely home made elderflower wine I made was stupendous. That's why my views on kits are jaded. Maybe its different with beer?

SmokeyDave
06-06-2014, 01:05 PM
Just reading through some guides etc, am I right in reading that when fermenting your beer it needs to be stored at 18-21*?

If so, do you have equipment to maintain that temp? as even my house isn't that warm constantly.

ValeTudoGuy
06-06-2014, 03:09 PM
Are the kits really that good? I've done various wine kits and all have been crap, first batch if completely home made elderflower wine I made was stupendous. That's why my views on kits are jaded. Maybe its different with beer?

Wine kits are particularly poor... beer isn't so bad, well some cheap ones are. Now homemade Billberry Wine... Nectar!

ValeTudoGuy
06-06-2014, 03:10 PM
Just reading through some guides etc, am I right in reading that when fermenting your beer it needs to be stored at 18-21*?

If so, do you have equipment to maintain that temp? as even my house isn't that warm constantly.

Ideally yes, unless it's lager.. You can get heat pads and bands.

PeeJay
06-06-2014, 03:11 PM
Wine kits are particularly poor... beer isn't so bad, well some cheap ones are. Now homemade Billberry Wine... Nectar!

I have this image of you trekking through the early mist with your longbow over your shoulder collecting bilberries to take home to the old forge :biggrin1:

cigarmo
06-06-2014, 03:26 PM
Got to love the hillbillys
http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/moonshiners/videos/copper-still-building-traditions.htm

MarkLondon
06-06-2014, 03:29 PM
I have a question...when brewing at home is it best to put the sugar in first or the milk?:dontknow:

PeeJay
06-06-2014, 03:38 PM
I have a question...when brewing at home is it best to put the sugar in first or the milk?:dontknow:

You NEVER put the milk in first! :tee:

ValeTudoGuy
06-06-2014, 03:45 PM
I have this image of you trekking through the early mist with your longbow over your shoulder collecting bilberries to take home to the old forge :biggrin1:

That's surprisingly accurate. :)

ValeTudoGuy
06-06-2014, 03:52 PM
I have a question...when brewing at home is it best to put the sugar in first or the milk?:dontknow:

The milk goes in last at my house! :)

PeeJay
06-06-2014, 04:00 PM
The milk goes in last at my house! :)

That's because you do it properly. Home grown tea?

ValeTudoGuy
06-06-2014, 04:06 PM
That's because you do it properly. Home grown tea?

To my shame no. Always loose leaf though! Oh and I have been roasting my own coffee recently. :)

mattyhall22
06-06-2014, 06:11 PM
You can convert old fridges to fermentation chambers using a small electric heater and an STC-1000 controller, it kicks the compressor (for cooling) or heater on to maintain perfect temp.

However I just wrap my fermenting vessel in a double quilt, keeps it just right for me :smile:

As Marc says lager is normally brewed at a lower temp, however alot of lager kits come with ale yeast not lager yeast so can be brewed in the 18 - 21C range. If you buy Coopers "European" or "Pilsner" lager kits they do come with a true lager yeast so will need the lower temps, these give a cleaner more crisp taste. Proper lager yeast prefers a 5 - 8C range (strain dependant)

The main thing with home brewing kits is patience, you can pretty much tear up the times they give on the packs, it will never be ready to drink in 7 days! Mine get left for 2 months before trying!

Leave it in the fermenter for 14 days to ferment out, then place some where cool for a couple of days to help clear the beer (don't bother with finnings you don't need them). Once cooled you can bottle or barrel the beer, not forgetting to add the extra sugar to allow the beer to carbonate. (unless you are going to force carbonate it with CO2 in a sankey or cornie keg).

Once bottled / barrelled and the sugar is added, seal them up and place them somewhere warm (I go for about 18C again, for two weeks, this lets the yeast ferment the extra sugar out creating CO2 under pressure and carbonates the beer, then give it a minimum of two weeks in the cold. This will allow the beer to clear, the yeast will fall to the bottom of the bottle and compact out. The longer you can leave it the better really. :smile:

I always bottle as its easier to take to mates and can have a varied selection in the fridge :smile:
When using bottles you can buy new glass bottles or recycle glass ones (brown is best as it prevents the beer from "Skunking", as UV light affects the hops in the beer and makes a horrible taint to the brew) (the beer you buy in clear bottles has the hop oils isomerized to prevent this), or you can buy PET bottles on the internet. you can use old fizzy pop bottles at a push, but they can allow some CO2 to pass through, where as the Coopers PET bottles have a barrier layer to prevent this.

Patience is the key though :thumb:

ValeTudoGuy
06-06-2014, 07:00 PM
Wow Matt... That's textbook!

ValeTudoGuy
07-06-2014, 04:00 PM
Well, I just bottled some Damson Gin and am Currently in the process of pitching some Peach and Elderflower Melomel.

PeeJay
07-06-2014, 07:16 PM
Well, I just bottled some Damson Gin and am Currently in the process of pitching some Peach and Elderflower Melomel.

So how well will that travel through the post?

ValeTudoGuy
07-06-2014, 07:52 PM
Which one?

PeeJay
07-06-2014, 07:52 PM
Which one?

The damson gin

ValeTudoGuy
07-06-2014, 08:19 PM
Consider it done. :)