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tupacboy
10-11-2009, 03:32 AM
I read somewhere in this forum that nc do not age well. Can someone please explain why cc age well and nc don't? Thanks!
rokkitsci
10-11-2009, 12:24 PM
Where did you read this, tup, old chap?

Absolutely not true.

Some see-gars, both CC and NC, do not age well.

MOST see-gars, both CC and NC, DO age well.


I read somewhere in this forum that nc do not age well. Can someone please explain why cc age well and nc don't? Thanks!
daverave999
10-11-2009, 12:30 PM
The stronger the better for aging I believe.

[EDIT] I think there was some kind of answer to your question in this thread (http://www.ukcigarforums.com/showthread.php?t=3266).
G-man
10-11-2009, 01:05 PM
:41:N/Cs, on the other hand, are always ready to go right out of the box and need no additional time after purchase. No respectable N/C retailer would sell stogies that weren't ready to smoke. :nono:
Hello Boys : This does hold true for NC cigars But !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some seem to get better with age added to them . I've been ageing NC to see what the differance make and some loose their taste and strenth through ageing. Its a shame that some put boxes away to find the"ve runed a great cigar. So I would have to say!
Put 1 or 2 away if U want to try to age them. Preflibly Full strenth will age fine but after 2 + years or so they mite become flat . 1 Cigar Id say never and I meen never age Is the VSG Ashton U will be distroying a 12 dollar plus cigar!
Never Age a mild cigar Longer then 6 months the results will kill them!:nono: This is my opinion and from my personal experance have found this to hold true!

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reigndrop
10-11-2009, 03:23 PM
That's completely false. Opus X's and VSG's age really well, imo. I had a '97 VSG the other day and it was divine.
matt257
10-11-2009, 03:29 PM
That's completely false. Opus X's and VSG's age really well, imo. I had a '97 VSG the other day and it was divine.

The Ashton VSG was not released until 1999?
G-man
10-11-2009, 03:42 PM
To your opinion as am I to mine,so to say its false is a matter of taste.Could be the crop of that year cigar you had or I had that makes them age differantly.It is a product from mother nature and though we try to control what she does we can't control everything she does ! But I have age numerious VSGs and found their better out of the box MHO. And you are entitled to yours.







That's completely false. Opus X's and VSG's age really well, imo. I had a '97 VSG the other day and it was divine.
tupacboy
10-11-2009, 05:02 PM
dave had the correct thread :) (i told you dave.. guru)

so basically nc come ready to smoke out of the box... while cc need a bit of love and aging.

so do most nc age their tobacco that much before we grace it with our lips?

i dunno about you guys... i'm new to all this... but the aging seems like part of the fun... reward for your labor and safekeeping basically :)
ChrisMClark
10-11-2009, 05:32 PM
Is aging not something to do with oils in the tabacco rather than it's origin?
daverave999
10-11-2009, 08:33 PM
so do most nc age their tobacco that much before we grace it with our lips?
I believe so.


i dunno about you guys... i'm new to all this... but the aging seems like part of the fun... reward for your labor and safekeeping basically :)
Yeah I quite like the idea of tasting the progression as a box ages. If they're OK to smoke when you get them, and they just keep getting better, what's the problem!?


Is aging not something to do with oils in the tabacco rather than it's origin?
Certain components such as tannins and nicotine decompose into smaller molecules changing the taste and strength. More info here (http://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/document.php?id=cigaradvisorjuly.htm&title=Cigar+Advisor+Questions).
ChrisMClark
10-11-2009, 09:05 PM
Cheers Dave, looks like good (and lengthy :lol:) reading :)
reigndrop
15-11-2009, 02:35 AM
The Ashton VSG was not released until 1999?


Ahh, meant to say Opus X.
TJCoro
15-11-2009, 03:06 AM
:nerd:I don't know about you boyz, but I'm aging one of me :girl: birds at the moment, hoping :pray:she gets better with age.:heh:

:idea: Any thoughts?

:shocked: BJ, BJCoro



:849:Aging N/Cs is a waste of valuable humidor real estate.

:lol: I use 'em to wipe me :censored:


:catsmoker: (Ahem!) For a couple of boobs, you two are quite the elitist!


:juggle: Think me ball would get better with age?
cohibaIV
15-11-2009, 01:34 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but I have yet to see any dates marked on any NC boxes....:confused:

SO...How do you know how old the cigars are in the first place...:confused:


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daverave999
15-11-2009, 02:06 PM
An interesting article (http://cigarresearch.com/Site/CC3.html).
rokkitsci
15-11-2009, 03:31 PM
An interesting article (http://cigarresearch.com/Site/CC3.html).

So much for the myth...

Thanks for the link, Dave.
Boss Hog
15-11-2009, 04:18 PM
Where did you read this, tup, old chap?

Absolutely not true.

Some see-gars, both CC and NC, do not age well.

MOST see-gars, both CC and NC, DO age well.


Anyone got a clue which ones dont age well. Going to look a bit daft putting some aside for 5 years then find they taste like an Iranians flip flop.
cohibaIV
15-11-2009, 04:23 PM
Great link mate, but...How do you know how old they are if there are no date stamps??:der:
TJCoro
16-11-2009, 01:06 AM
Great link mate, but...How do you know how old they are if there are no date stamps??:der:


:nerd: I have seen a few n/c boxes with dates on 'em, but most I've seen these dayz don't include dates. But as has been mentioned before, no respectable n/c dealer would sell cigars that are still in the so-called "sick period," which is generally the first year after rolling....so I've read! :41:

If I can find a n/c box with a date on it, I'll post a :photo:pic.

:shocked: BJ, BJCoro
rokkitsci
16-11-2009, 11:33 AM
Anyone got a clue which ones dont age well. Going to look a bit daft putting some aside for 5 years then find they taste like an Iranians flip flop.

According to the article: "Thicker wrappers tend to weather time better. Maduro wrapped Nicaraguans have aged well. Also, thicker Cameroon wrapped cigars have fared well. Thin wrappers become fragile and degrade over time. Connecticut wrapped cigars, lose their flavor more rapidly than other wrappers... Try to ensure that the original cigar was a well blended and that it had a hearty wrapper and strong flavor."

hth
SeanP
16-11-2009, 06:17 PM
Here's a box of NC Bolivar Confradia 554's that come out of Honduras.

http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp153/71Rig/IMG_0048.jpg

The upper left corner is marked "62007" which I read as May 2007 boxed. I believe the 3HJC is the factory that rolled them. This box was purchased in April 2009 from JR Cigar in North Carolina. It came cellophane wrapped with the official Honduran export seal on them. They smoke great and I have no reason to believe them not to be boxed in 2007.

I have several other NC boxes that have no dates on them and I can only guess the age based on when I purchased and when the blend was introduced. I know this does no help for long running blends but can help with the boutique blends. So it's not an exact science, yet!