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Jason
13-01-2010, 11:43 AM
Everywhere I look say these require a bit of ageing first. Some say around 3 weeks. But for better taste others' recommend 2 years. I'm just wondering, anyone just smoked on of these without ageing it? Was it still OK? Hopefully, mine will arrive tomorrow. :)

saggel
13-01-2010, 11:46 AM
So you went after some serious stogies... great mate... ;)

senor_robusto
13-01-2010, 12:03 PM
hey jason,
most cigars come with at least a year's aging on them anyway! when you receive them, put them in your humidor for about a week! i've always found that the trini reyes smokes fantastic anyway! of course it'll get better with age! the trini reyes is a FANTASTIC wee cigar, much much better than the cohiba siglo 1 in my opinion! in fact, i think it's the best in it's size range!

all the best,

alex:849:

daverave999
13-01-2010, 12:05 PM
As I understand it, there are different reasons for leaving them in your humidor for a while. Here (http://www.cigargroup.com/faq/#4.1) suggests 3 weeks to stabilise mechanical tensions and moisture content, 3 months to allow the oils to begin to migrate and flavors of the blend to marry and 3 years will allow 'proper' aging to start occurring ie. decomposition of larger molecules.

Some cigars you will find are great as soon as you get them in the post, others will need years! My box of Reyes was pretty good as soon as they turned up. Of course this depends on where you purchase from and how old their stock is...

When I buy, I try to leave for 3 months, but often with a new box will have one straight away just in case they are fine already.

My advice is to smoke it when you want to and not worry. If you don't like it, there is always the next cigar, whenever that may be.

tippexx
13-01-2010, 12:34 PM
LOL Dave, My 5 Pack didn't even make it to 3 months!

EugeneSax
13-01-2010, 12:46 PM
LOL Dave, My 5 Pack didn't even make it to 3 months!

I don't think any of my 3 (or more?) cabinets has made it much past 3 months. I find it hard to imagine anyone keeping their hands off them for 3+ years.

I really do think some cigars are just too good young to keep for any serious amount of time - the Reyes being one (others would include Hoyo Petit Robusto & PL PC's).

Jason
13-01-2010, 01:18 PM
It's a single from Cgars. I don't have a humidor at the moment anyway, so I'll just smoke it when it arrives - and if I like it - buy more.

saggel
13-01-2010, 01:22 PM
It's a single from Cgars. I don't have a humidor at the moment anyway, so I'll just smoke it when it arrives - and if I like it - buy more.

That's the spirit buddy... :rock:

nicwing
13-01-2010, 01:43 PM
We used to have a Mexican Reyes expert here but he is currently engaged in a major project on the International Space Station and out of email contact, which some think is a shame.

I know he had some very strong opinions on these wonderful cigars which are among my favourites, reasonably priced and very very acceptable to a beginner or someone who likes complexity rather than having ones head blown off.

I know he used to buy them from a European supplier and insist on 2-3 years age before he parted with his money.

However....he is/was a purist.

I have always enjoyed them and never really worried too much about the age.

I suggest you enjoy them and get into ageing them when you have a humidor and the equipment to store them properly. Oh and you will need the funds to store and smoke at the same time. Always a challenge!

saggel
13-01-2010, 01:46 PM
you will need the funds to store and smoke at the same time

That's the tough part...!!!

daverave999
13-01-2010, 03:06 PM
It's a single from Cgars. I don't have a humidor at the moment anyway, so I'll just smoke it when it arrives - and if I like it - buy more.
Good plan. That's how it starts... :p

Jason
13-01-2010, 03:28 PM
Arrived just. :) Will smoke it tonight - it will be OK in a ziplock bag, right?

nicwing
13-01-2010, 03:34 PM
OK till tonight. In fact you might be best to let it breath a bit if it's been in the bag a while. Might be too moist.

jdawg
13-01-2010, 04:03 PM
I smoked one right off the truck and it was stilll a good smoke! The remaining ones have been resting for about six months. It's time to give another a go and see how they have evolved. :biggrin1:

saggel
13-01-2010, 04:20 PM
If you are going to smoke it tonight, take it off the bag and let it for a while before lighting its foot... enjoy it mate!

Jason
13-01-2010, 04:29 PM
Take it out now? I'll be smoking it around 9. And I hope I enjoy it mate hehe.

saggel
13-01-2010, 04:35 PM
Take it out for the necessary photos :D

satch
13-01-2010, 04:45 PM
I got three awhile ago.
Smoked one straight off, one 3 months later
and one a couple of months after that.
They were all a really good smoke.
To be honest I couldn't really tell a difference.
Just enjoy it! Take your time or thet get a bit hot.

Jason
13-01-2010, 05:35 PM
How far down do I need to cut the head? (I just want to be sure I don't go too far down).

Also I have to ask, how do you get an even burn with a match? Some places say don't let the flame touch the cigar while puffing and rotating and others' say let the flame touch the foot. :S

Jason
13-01-2010, 05:42 PM
Good plan. That's how it starts... :p

LOL - I know, I stated the obvious :p

nicwing
13-01-2010, 05:51 PM
When you cut the cigar just make sure you leave some of the cap in place as this helps to hold the cigar together.

In terms of lighting the cigar don't get started. If you search here you will find a thread on lighting a cigar and it's one of the longest here (as I recall)

daverave999
13-01-2010, 05:54 PM
How far down do I need to cut the head? (I just want to be sure I don't go too far down).

Also I have to ask, how do you get an even burn with a match? Some places say don't let the flame touch the cigar while puffing and rotating and others' say let the flame touch the foot. :S
If you look at the cigar, the main body is covered with a spiral wound wrapper leaf. The cap is pasted on over this to stop it unraveling. You need to ensure there is some of the cap left so it won't unravel when you smoke it. I would post a picture but I'm on the laptop. I might put up a guide on my blog later and link it here.

Don't let the flame touch it if you can help it, think of it as warming the end gently. Use a lighter if you can get one, I find it difficult not to burn myself with a match.

Really though, it's just a bunch of leaves you're going to set on fire and taste the smoke. It is actually quite difficult to go really wrong.

daverave999
13-01-2010, 07:34 PM
OK Jason, I've posted a rough guide with expandable pictures at my blog here (http://fistload.co.uk/blog/how-to-cut-a-cigar/). I used a Reyes as the second cigar to help.

satch
13-01-2010, 07:38 PM
Excellent reply, Dave.

HabanoSy
13-01-2010, 08:24 PM
Great info Dave...

Hope you enjoy your Trini Reyes Jason...

You've made a good choice... :41:

Cheers, HabanoSy

Gryph
14-01-2010, 01:46 PM
OK Jason, I've posted a rough guide with expandable pictures at my blog here (http://fistload.co.uk/blog/how-to-cut-a-cigar/). I used a Reyes as the second cigar to help.

That's really handy for a newbie like myself, thanks! (and pleasing that Ive managed to get it reasonably spot on :tongue: )

saggel
14-01-2010, 03:14 PM
Great post Dave!!!! !!! !!! :cowboyic9:

El Catador
14-01-2010, 03:46 PM
Great post Dave!!!! !!! !!! :cowboyic9:
:dito:Agreed! Great job!

One question though, do you always use a cutter, or, for narrower gauge cigars would you opt for a punch?

:boxing: No, not that kind of punch!

I tend to find them easier for anything around (or under) a RG30, but maybe that's just because I've got big hands. :ciao:

daverave999
14-01-2010, 04:20 PM
Thanks folks!

One question though, do you always use a cutter, or, for narrower gauge cigars would you opt for a punch?
I use a punch most of the time personally, but would more likely use a cutter for the smaller RG cigars.

saggel
14-01-2010, 04:24 PM
Mike sent me a punch and I have loved it...!!!!

daverave999
14-01-2010, 04:31 PM
Take it out now? I'll be smoking it around 9. And I hope I enjoy it mate hehe.
So how did it go? I'm dying to know. :D

saggel
14-01-2010, 04:37 PM
He's still recovering... :p

HabanoSy
14-01-2010, 05:41 PM
So how did it go? I'm dying to know. :D

Yeh, c'mon Jason, spill the beans...

How was it...? :41:

Cheers, HabanoSy

Jason
14-01-2010, 06:48 PM
Hi guys. It wasn't bad. I do believe I need to smoke more before I start to recognise most of the flavours - I think I was concentrating too much on tasting a flavour rather than enjoying it. That said, it was a great smoke and can't wait to try more to develop my sense of taste lol.

Any recommendations on what I should try next?

satch
14-01-2010, 07:10 PM
If you can get hold of a Hoyo de Monterrey Petit Robusto, they're not too powerful. Take it slow!

daverave999
14-01-2010, 08:00 PM
I do believe I need to smoke more before I start to recognise most of the flavours - I think I was concentrating too much on tasting a flavour rather than enjoying it.
I can certainly understand that! Everyone's experience is different. If you look at the reviews for the Reyes on cigars-review.org you'll see there is quite a variation in people's descriptions. Then again, others say they cannot discern individual flavours at all, but they still enjoy the cigar!


If you can get hold of a Hoyo de Monterrey Petit Robusto, they're not too powerful. Take it slow!
Agreed. I love these. :D

HabanoSy
14-01-2010, 08:18 PM
Any recommendations on what I should try next?

How about a Juan Lopez No.1 or a Monte Petit Edmundo... :41:

Cheers, HabanoSy

nicwing
14-01-2010, 08:40 PM
If you can get hold of a Hoyo de Monterrey Petit Robusto, they're not too powerful. Take it slow!

On the nosey satch!

My 'go to' cigar at the moment!

saggel
15-01-2010, 12:46 PM
I think I was concentrating too much on tasting a flavour rather than enjoying it. Man... don't go after the aromas... let them come to you!!! Enjoy every puff...!!!! Don't loose the meaning!!!

J Cano
16-01-2010, 12:49 AM
Make love to the cigar!