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nicwing
28-01-2010, 01:37 PM
A cigar smoked by Sir Winston Churchill will go up for auction in Norfolk on Friday and is expected to raise £350.

Would you pay that for a well chewed stogie? Unless you wanted to clone the old chap from the slobber?

http://is.gd/7dt0Q

tippexx
28-01-2010, 01:57 PM
A cigar smoked by Sir Winston Churchill will go up for auction in Norfolk on Friday and is expected to raise £350.

Would you pay that for a well chewed stogie? Unless you wanted to clone the old chap from the slobber?

http://is.gd/7dt0Q

:crazy: I'm all for nostalgia Nic. What's the following Lot. A pair of Mrs T's used undercrackers?

monkey66
28-01-2010, 01:59 PM
Phewww :puke:

Lou3
28-01-2010, 03:14 PM
Hmm... On one hand, few things are more disgusting than a decades-old smoked cigar. On the other, it's probably the most unique piece of Churchill memorabilia in existence.

I'd hate to buy it and a week later get tobacco beetles.

jdawg
28-01-2010, 04:30 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it sold for much more than the expected 350.

nicwing
28-01-2010, 04:34 PM
Guy from the US sent me a link to an article saying one sold for £350 a few years back.

The Cabinet War Rooms has one, there must be a limited market for used Churchill Cigars.

Drewmidorn
28-01-2010, 04:44 PM
You can get a new cigar cheaper then that!!!!

It looks like the binder might be a little damaged and I imagine it will have a poor draw. Sounds like it hasn't been kept in a humidor either... I'm not sure that wrapping it in note paper will do the job!

.... and its not that rare...I've got loads of cigars with "Churchill" on the band, I don't think they ever belonged to him though! Mind you one box of Punch I have tastes like that cigar looks.

EugeneSax
28-01-2010, 04:52 PM
You can get a new cigar cheaper then that!!!!

It Sounds like it hasn't been kept in a humidor either... I'm not sure that wrapping it in note paper will do the job!



...and it was probably quite dry in the firsat place - they weren't big on humidors in those days.

Does anyone know of, or ever seen a humidor that belonged to WC?

tippexx
28-01-2010, 05:09 PM
If there's one at Marlbourgh it will be a monster. Humidors for gentry were half the side of a house .... and now go for about the price of these days.

nicwing
28-01-2010, 05:12 PM
You should read the book Churchill's Cigar (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0330461214/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=471057153&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=0230528929&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0BNCP0WJ8TAXXESTYR33).

Churchill had a number of humidors (This extract from the book is included in the Cuban Cigar Walk London with the authors permission)

“In April 1996 Christie’s sold two Don Joaquin Cuesta’s cigars, tucked in an 18-carat gold cigar case, for £3,785. The following year Sotherby’s sold another cigar case, one carried by Churchill in the trenches of the first world war, for £4,830.

In 1998 Sotheby’s sold the 9-carat gold cigar case, made by Cartier, which commemorated six cruises Churchill had taken on the Christina with Aristotle Onasis, who presented it to him on his eight-sixth birthday; the final bid was £43,300….
Marvin Shanken, the publisher of Cigar Afficionado, was famous for spending £250,000 on JFK’s humidor; furthermore, he quietly paid an unknown sum for one of Winston Churchill’s humidors which he is said to prefer."

You are right about the lack of humidification, JJ Fox only introduced humidification relatively recently and Dunhill (where he also got his smokes) pioneered humidification.

Lou3
28-01-2010, 07:44 PM
I don't know how accurate it is, but here's a Web page on Churchill's cigar smoking:

http://www.winston-churchill-leadership.com/winston-churchill-cigar.html

nicwing
29-01-2010, 05:28 PM
3 1/2 inches of 'previously enjoyed' cigar sells for £4,500!!!!!!!!!!!

http://is.gd/7iHeu

EugeneSax
29-01-2010, 05:49 PM
Interesting - I have never noticed a cigar band in any of the pictures I've seen of WC smoking a cigar, and I can't find any in a quick search of Google Image.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/22grosvenor/churchill.jpg

I therefore conclude he was a de-bander.

Then how come the auctioned cigar had a band?

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/22grosvenor/Churchillcigar.jpg


Here he is lighting one with no band - so it's not as if he would start with band on & then remove about half way, as I know some people do. Can anyone find any pictures of him smoking a cigar WITH band?

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/22grosvenor/churchill2.jpg

peanutpete
29-01-2010, 06:14 PM
Interesting - I have never noticed a cigar band in any of the pictures I've seen of WC smoking a cigar, and I can't find any in a quick search of Google Image.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/22grosvenor/churchill.jpg

I therefore conclude he was a de-bander.

Then how come the auctioned cigar had a band?

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/22grosvenor/Churchillcigar.jpg


Here he is lighting one with no band - so it's not as if he would start with band on & then remove about half way, as I know some people do. Can anyone find any pictures of him smoking a cigar WITH band?

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/22grosvenor/churchill2.jpg


ah eugene do you smell a conspiracy i do love a good conspiracy

Lou3
29-01-2010, 09:42 PM
Excellent point, Eugene.

nicwing
29-01-2010, 09:56 PM
Eugene, that's a great picture (the one of him lighting the cigar) I was told they were very very rare.

Can you PM me and tell me where you got this from.
Thanks Matey!