Not for smoking but for collecting

[PoohBore]

Saw this on fleabay and couldn't resist, I'm sure it's not everyone's cup of tea.

Supposedly they are from 1939 - 1945 and the box does look genuine. The seal is intact and quite interesting....

[cj121]

A great find Poo, I like curios like those.

Translates to Noble Sort (kind/type I guess)

[Big_T_UK]

I have never wanted a specific box of cigars so badly! Was that on UK fleabay and what sort of money was it, if that is not an impertinent question?

T.

[kingcohiba]

Damn! Wtf are those? Hitler cigars?

[Lee Nub]

Ive seen several of those for sale in the last few months, all from the same seller and from a large stash they found apparently. If its the same one that is, does look like it.

[PoohBore]

yes it is from the same guy. I paid $57 incl P & P. need to get my cabinet humi project finished now !

An extract from the fleabay item

short history to the cigars and cigar holders:
As is known, there are round Freiburg (Germany) some tobacco fields them nowadays though are planted, but not used any more for own production in Germany. The crop is sold predominantly to the big tobacco industries and is processed there.

There was near Freiburg (Germany) a cigar factory which has also produced cigars exclusively in wooden boxes from 1900 on, with the label "Vorstenlanden", “ Goldfisch”, “Union”, “Edelsorte” etc. The tobacco company near Freiburg has produced cigars till 1955.
During the 2nd world war and also before they produced for the government of directors at that time and the military etc.

In 1955 the company was closed, the location was worth no more. Now in 2008 the buildings should be disposed or be broken off. It was examined again by the administrator and there the sensational finding came to the daylight:
Original packed cigars in boxes from 1933 - 1945, original closely, original sealed by the duty excise stamp with the original watermark of the government at that time. (With Imperial eagle and swastika)
The cigar box has the original tax band with the seal of the time, which (only) at the photo had to be worked on by me. It have become here collector's items with incalculable value, there will never again be thus.

[Lee Nub]

Yup thats how i remembered it.

[whisky77]

Never seen anything like that before. A real collectors item.:rock:

[Kdot]

Not to keen on the Nazi imagery on the seal, but I'm sure some will fall over them selfs for it for this very reason.

[Big_T_UK]

Guilty!

[68TriShield]

That is quite the curio.

[tippexx]

Not to keen on the Nazi imagery on the seal, but I'm sure some will fall over them selfs for it for this very reason.

Yeah. A Neo-Musthave!

I'm all for curios and antique items. But some things are No No .... and those boxes would be one of them.

[monkey66]

Not for me :frown:

[Big_T_UK]

A friend found a nice Luger that was going at a shockingly reasonable price some years back (obviously when we could still pistol shoot) but he had a thing against items with swastikas. This particular pistol was in lovely condition but did have a TINY swastika stamp on the reciever (if memory serves) and so he walked away from the deal, I could not fathom it. If the pistol/item was in good condition, what you wanted and at a good price, what difference does another mark or stamp on it make. I think the same thing goes for the cigars. Good condition (apparently), a reasonable price, rare and interesting! The Eagle/swastika is only on the box, owning it or smoking them will turn you into a Nazi!

T.

[celsis]

I agree. This is history albeit a not very nice period, but it's still history.

[Kdot]

Guilty!

Well that's hardly surprising, each to their own I guess. Not my cup O cha though.

[monkey66]

I don't think it's too difficult to understand that some people find anything related to Nazi Germany very, very offensive. Just because you don't does not change how others feel. Probably important not to feel the need to justify ones position.

[Lascaux]

Remarkable piece of history, it's like owning a piece of voodoo or black magic! Wonder how those cigars would have smoked?


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[Lee Nub]

Remarkable piece of history, it's like owning a piece of voodoo or black magic! Wonder how those cigars would have smoked?


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Might be able to arrange something there .....

[misterbulgarin]

awesome! Id love to have these around

[cohibaIV]

I’m in between.

History and all that and the swastika sign had a very good history until the Nazi's got hold of it.

But, in the image that it has been used and during the time it was used leaves me un-easy.

Just my two pennies worth..

[Big_T_UK]

Lee, are you being a tease or you have a cunning plan?

T.

[PoohBore]

I wonder how many emails the seller has received in the last couple of days? The dilema keep it or open it .....

[Lee Nub]

No no plan unfortunately , I was trying to track some down but were as before he had several boxes on, he doesn't seem to have any on at the moment

And to clear up, I'm not a Nazi or Nazi fan , but I do find history fascinating, and when will you ever get the chance to buy something like that again

[cj121]

Were they stored in a potentially smokable condition Steve? That would be interesting.

[PoohBore]

I don't think so
If I can get another I'll open 1 and share the experience :-)

[Zippo]

Intetesting piece of history.
Would love to get my hands on one of those boxes.
Good buy.

/Zippo

[tippexx]

No no plan unfortunately , I was trying to track some down but were as before he had several boxes on, he doesn't seem to have any on at the moment

And to clear up, I'm not a Nazi or Nazi fan , but I do find history fascinating, and when will you ever get the chance to buy something like that again

I've got a good collection of Adolf's old, toe-nail clippings I can flog you Lee. Cheap to you mate. Genuine history and all that!

[Kdot]

I've got a good collection of Adolf's old, toe-nail clippings I can flog you Lee. Cheap to you mate. Genuine history and all that!

:eek: LMAO :smoke:

[crisdean]

Well they might tasty they might be not. It might be a box with something in it except cigars.

So why not keep this box closed and never open it. Or you are curious and open it. If that was a real box the price might have been higher. Who knows.

And as I'm nosy. Open the box! Please! :D