outdoor smoking now banned in Orlando

[Lee Nub]

Details are sketchy at the moment, the email I got on my phone didn't come through correctly, but Corona Cigars are saying that Mayor Crotty (sp) has issued an outdoor smoking ban on all county property, including streets etc. I will post up the email when I get home :(

[Jimmeh]

Orange County, Florida:
Mayor Crotty Bans Use of Tobacco Products

Effective January 1, 2010, the use of tobacco products (including: cigars, pipes, cigarettes, chewing tobacco, snuff, snus, and hookahs) on all county owned and leased land was outlawed through an order signed by Orange County's Mayor Richard T. Crotty as he and a coalition of anti-tobacco supporters work to make the entire county tobacco-free.

This OUTDOOR ban comes on the heels of Florida's statewide existing indoor smoking ban which is already in affect.

Several major cities, including Orlando, reside in Orange County and the local economy heavily relies on tourism.

The ordinance now outlaws the use of any tobacco product in areas such as outdoors at the Orange County Convention Center, County parks, fishing docks, boat ramps, outdoor trails, county owned parking lots, streets and sidewalks.

Additionally, in order to maintain employment, County employees are required to sign an affidavit which states that any employee who enjoys more than four cigars per year they will be fined $650 each year they violate the tobacco policy.

On March 19, 2010, Mayor Crotty's anti-tobacco campaign received a boost when he allocated $6.6 million in federal stimulus funds (supposed to be used to create jobs) to the Orange County Health Department to prevent tobacco usage.

Please Contact These Orange County Lawmakers:

CRA is urging members in Florida and across the country to take action by contacting Mayor Richard T. Crotty and the county commissioners to express your opposition to this tobacco policy and your support of seeing the ordinance reversed.

Remember to tell these lawmakers that "enjoying a cigar is not a crime!"

Email: Mayor Crotty
Telephone: 407-836-7370
Fax: 407-836-7360
Postal Address:
County Mayor Richard Crotty
201 S. Rosalind Ave., 5th Floor
Orlando, FL 32801
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Email: Commissioner Boyd
Telephone: 407-836-7350
Fax: 407-836-5879
Postal Address:
Commissioner S. Scott Boyd
201 S. Rosalind Ave., 5th Floor
Orlando, FL 32801
________________________________________

Email: Commissioner Brummer
Telephone: 407-836-7350
Fax: 407-836-5879
Postal Address:
Commissioner Fred Brummer
201 S. Rosalind Ave., 5th Floor
Orlando, FL 32801
________________________________________

Email: Commissioner Stewart
Telephone: 407-836-7350
Fax: 407-836-5935
Postal Address:
Commissioner Linda Stewart
201 S. Rosalind Ave., 5th Floor
Orlando, FL 32801
________________________________________

Email: District5@ocfl.net
Telephone: 407-836-7350
Fax: 407-836-5879
Postal Address:
Commissioner Bill Segal
201 S. Rosalind Ave., 5th Floor
Orlando, FL 32801
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Email: Commissioner Moore Russell
Telephone: 407-836-7350
Fax: 407-836-5879
Postal Address:
Commissioner Tiffany Moore Russell
201 S. Rosalind Ave., 5th Floor
Orlando, FL 32801

[Jimmeh]

Thats the email....

[jdawg]

It's a sad day in America!

with all of the problems facing our nation, this is what our idiotic leaders see as the pressing problem...

[tupacboy]

better then belmont, california.... its illegal even to smoke in your own apartment / condo...

[68TriShield]

It's a sad day in America!

with all of the problems facing our nation, this is what our idiotic leaders see as the pressing problem...
Yea but it's worth 6.6 million.

Four cigars? Kiss my ass.

[Lee Nub]

Lol well put trishield. Thanks for posting the email jimmeh :)

[G-man]

Well they can KAMA in Disney's Magic Kingdom . When I was there last they had areas to smoke in and again KMA lily white ass. I burned and walked and no one said anything. However while outside the gate a women asked me to put out my cigar and I told her sure thing ,Ya got $5 for the cost? Made her quiet quick.

[Lee Nub]

I'm going to smoke the biggest fucker I can find while walking around in august, they will have to shoot me.

[mackem keith]

hell this is shit news :eviltongue:

question though does this law apply to florida as a whole just my father has a holiday condo in florida on madeira beach and will be seriously pissed if he cant smoke there, not least myself as we planning on taking a long holiday there early next year

[jdawg]

I'm going to smoke the biggest fucker I can find while walking around in august, they will have to shoot me.

Yeah, baby!!! Now, you are talkin.

This is what I think of the mayor and his smoking ban! :thefinger::reddy::thefinger:

[r0lan6]

Soon tobacco will become a 'class A' drug... :confused:

[cj121]

What a fuggin numpty this tw&t is:mad:

The land of the free?:der:

[Kdot]

WTF

Get that mayor out of office.

[G-man]

I say the smokers of the world unite ! And tell all the Nazi M F to smoke this
(Big Penis of Ours swinging in the free air) First smoking then anything they feel like.
The new world order isn't far off .

[larrysputnik]

Additionally, in order to maintain employment, County employees are required to sign an affidavit which states that any employee who enjoys more than four cigars per year they will be fined $650 each year they violate the tobacco policy.



Why cigars? All the research ever mentions is cigarettes as a health concern. My own physician told me two weeks ago that there is no evidence that smoking a cigar a day is a health hazard. But what does he know? He's only a doctor.:rolleyes:

[cbob]

I'm going to smoke the biggest fucker I can find while walking around in august, they will have to shoot me.

Uh... it's Florida. Everyone has a gun. One of the State Sports is shooting tourists. :cowboyic9:
I'd be very careful about who you piss off over there.

[kingcohiba]

i think maybe its time for people who smoke to stand up for themselves.

there aint a man on the face of this earth thats going to tell me i cant walk down the street smoking a cigar! not at least one i would consider listening to! write me a ticket!:smoke:

[Rocco]

doesn't the government have anyone else to harass? What a bunch of limp-wristed fucks. I thought it was bad in Canada for smoking laws, but this is ridiculous. This will set a precedence for other cities to use. Thank you mayor Cruddy:mad:

[Lee Nub]

Uh... it's Florida. Everyone has a gun. One of the State Sports is shooting tourists. :cowboyic9:
I'd be very careful about who you piss off over there.

Lol, I've been going every year for the last 7, I love the place. Even considering buying a house there. See if they try to stop me smoking on my own property. They way I read it its just county property. I'm going to sosa cigars at downtown disney every night for a fresh rolled one, they can't stop me walking around with one on Walts property

[monkey66]

Local, not national govt. One has to ask why, is there any significant health risk from second-hand smoke on the streets?

I suspect not so this is the 'we know better than you and are going to protect your health at the expense of your freedom' bullshit.

Criminalisation has systematically failed to address any of society's vices and indeed in several cases has made it massively worse (do some research on the insignificant Heroin addiction problem pre-1971 ban for a tragic example of how legislation has, and continues to take thousands of lives).

The chance of legislators ever separating cigarettes and other more respectable habits like cigars I fear is non-existent.

Things probably more dangerous in Florida that outside smoking: (not too serious a list :) )
Air Boats with big propellers on the back
Alligators / crocodiles
Gun-toting hicks
Dangerous driving
Alcohol
Obesity and junk food (ban MacD eating on the street, now that would be progress)
Miami Ink
Miami Vice
The Golden Girls

[Lee Nub]

You forgot to add Rokkit to that list monkey. Or shall we group him with the gun toting hicks lol

[monkey66]

i was coming back to edit but you beat me to it!

[tippexx]

[QUOTE=monkey66;90704]Local, not national govt.

Almost always is. Conker banning starts small time local but sooner or later some national department shithead sees there's an empire of paperwork, stats an' bureaucratic advancement to be built on the back of it.

And we're the fools .... we pay them and allow them massive pensions to ruin our lives. No wonder we're not allowed guns in this country!

[Deano]

Can't believe this. You know this is going to filter into opinion elsewhere. Won't be long until we see it on the streets of London etc.

Not a good day for a cigar smoker.

[Lee Nub]

They will only get my cigar when they pry it out of my cold dead hand :)

[macker89]

They will only get my cigar when they pry it out of my cold dead hand :)

I'm with you brother!! In the not too distant future I can see the members of this forum living as a band of leaf singeing outlaws somewhere in the middle of Sherwood forest.

[Lee Nub]

I already am, Well on the Xbox. Red dead redemption. Anyone who has fancied being Clint eastwood, grab this game.

[G-man]

I'm with you brother!! In the not too distant future I can see the members of this forum living as a band of leaf singeing outlaws somewhere in the middle of Sherwood forest.

Waiting for? In 1978 I decied Outlaws were the only ones that got peoples attention. and 1% is the way to go. To many rules and not enough fun in this f in world. I say we Live to smoke and smoke to live!

[seanbeer]

Makes me feel like by smoking Cigars, I am a very bad person. Suddenly i see sense trying to send man to the Moon, just hope they won't ban smoking there too.

[celsis]

Doesn't Orange County owned and leased land belong, technically, to the people of Orange County? ALL the people, not just some of them?

Or is the county a personal fiefdom? One for the lawyers, methinks, and an injunction to start with!

[rokkitsci]

I'm going to smoke the biggest fucker I can find while walking around in august, they will have to shoot me.

And I'll have your back, Lee. Let 'em try; all at once or one at a time - we'll take the fuckers down!

[rokkitsci]

You forgot to add Rokkit to that list monkey. Or shall we group him with the gun toting hicks lol

Hey! I'm one of the Good Guys, chaps! Y'know: "Make Love Not War" and "Peace, Love, Woodstock" and suchlike.

[TJCoro]

:hmmmm2: Wonder if the new law covers MEDICAL :canabis: MARY JANE?


:catsmoker:

[DeadBase]

It's like this in Tokyo, no smoking except in designated areas on the street and not without a personal ashtray.

It seems daft that it's cigar smokers being targeted rather than cigarette smokers. What's worse - an inconsiderate bugger dropping 4 biodegradable cigar stubs a year on the floor or 10 non-biodegradeable cigarette butts a day littering the floor? And would you rather have to walk past someone smoking a cigarette or a cigar? All of my non-smoking friends would probably agree on the cigar.

It's not even velvet fascism, it's straight-up infringement of personal freedom. I'm with the G-Man - 1% all the way, FTW if this is what it's offering.

[larrysputnik]

Waiting for? In 1978 I decied Outlaws were the only ones that got peoples attention. and 1% is the way to go. To many rules and not enough fun in this f in world. I say we Live to smoke and smoke to live!

Wow. A 1%er? Really? If you're a 1%er, what do you ride?

I have a feeling this forum is about to be commandeered... :mad: Maybe I misjudged you G-Man...

[celsis]

Oh God, 1%ers! OK, who has the patch and wears it with pride?

[Gordonbcb]

What about this lot..... http://www.cigarrights.org/

Are they not doing anything in defense of the cigar smokers of Orlando ????

[Lou3]

I suspect not so this is the 'we know better than you and are going to protect your health at the expense of your freedom' bullshit.
I think even that is a rationalization these days. Tobacco has simply become a boogeyman, much like the evil gun sitting on a table suddenly uprighting itself and shooting somebody.