New Castle!

[Magicseven]

I believe New Castle may be from England, at least it says so on the bottle. I think it's fantastic, what does you guys on the other side of the pond think? Is their something similar that better, that i can find in the us? Any one over there enjoy American beer or a can find it?

[Simon-JG-hr]

Newcastle Brown Ale?

Not a bad beer at all. Certainly one of the better offerings in some establishments. That said, I still prefer a nice, hand pulled, cellar cool pin though.

[Soulmanure]

Newcastle used to be my beer of choice--good stuff. If you're looking for something somewhat similar, Old Speckled Hen can sometimes be found in the states.

http://www.oldspeckledhen.co.uk/findinghen.html

[Drewmidorn]

Newkie Brown... originally filtered through fish scales!

[SeanP]

Newkie Brown... originally filtered through fish scales!

And it still is! Like a lot of ales...(well, an engineered fish scale product these days)


Magicseven- there are quite a few ales that you can get in the states that would compare or even better Newcastle. Let me know what you like and I can probably recommend a few (imported and domestic). And don't worry about confusing me with those 'local' beers...spent quite a few days on the ice with the likes of Huber Bock, Leinie's, Point, and a suitcase of Hamm's or two :rolleyes:

[tippexx]

[QUOTE=SeanP;101562]And it still is! Like a lot of ales...(well, an engineered fish scale product these days)

Sweetened, engineered fish scales you mean Sean.


I'll stick to Dublin's finest!

[SeanP]

And it still is! Like a lot of ales...(well, an engineered fish scale product these days)

Sweetened, engineered fish scales you mean Sean.


I'll stick to Dublin's finest!

Even the black nectar uses isinglass (processed swim bladders) for clarification and filtering :eek:.

[captain duff]

There was outrage a few years ago when Heineken who now own the brand stopped producing it in Gateshead and moved it to the John Smiths brewry in Yorkshire.

I actually used to prefer the rival Double Maxim brown ale brewed by the now closed Vaux brewery in Sunderland (and before any magpie asks - no I am not a mackem!) which shut down about 10 years ago (although the name and beer has been resurrected by a small independant brewer I believe, but I've not seen/tested the new product).

[celsis]

I believe New Castle may be from England, at least it says so on the bottle. I think it's fantastic, what does you guys on the other side of the pond think? Is their something similar that better, that i can find in the us? Any one over there enjoy American beer or a can find it?

Ah, Newkie Broon! Every sip, a thousand brain cells!

[Esoteric]

Newcastle Brown Ale?

Not a bad beer at all. Certainly one of the better offerings in some establishments. That said, I still prefer a nice, hand pulled, cellar cool pin though.

Hmm, what would be an example of one of these?

[mackem keith]

There was outrage a few years ago when Heineken who now own the brand stopped producing it in Gateshead and moved it to the John Smiths brewry in Yorkshire.

I actually used to prefer the rival Double Maxim brown ale brewed by the now closed Vaux brewery in Sunderland (and before any magpie asks - no I am not a mackem!) which shut down about 10 years ago (although the name and beer has been resurrected by a small independant brewer I believe, but I've not seen/tested the new product).

yep i can vouch for the double maxim which is readilly available in my local supermarkets and also available in draught form from a few of the local real ale pubs up here too, much better in draught form mind, a lovely pint IMO

[celsis]

Can you still get Federation Ale?

[captain duff]

Can you still get Federation Ale?

You mean from the Federation brewery? If so, no, that was closed in 2005 by Scottish and Newcastle (owned by Heineken) leading to newcastle brown being now brewed in yorkshire.

[Magicseven]

And it still is! Like a lot of ales...(well, an engineered fish scale product these days)


Magicseven- there are quite a few ales that you can get in the states that would compare or even better Newcastle. Let me know what you like and I can probably recommend a few (imported and domestic). And don't worry about confusing me with those 'local' beers...spent quite a few days on the ice with the likes of Huber Bock, Leinie's, Point, and a suitcase of Hamm's or two :rolleyes:


Very nice! I call Hamms the untangler, if I am a little stopped up a can a Hamm's will clear everything out! LOL I like new castle because it has a great taste but it's not heavyor thick like a guiness. I like Harp as well.

[captain duff]

Originally Posted by simonjgriffithshr http://www.ukcigarforums.com/images/ringme/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.ukcigarforums.com/showthread.php?p=101462#post101462)
Newcastle Brown Ale?

Not a bad beer at all. Certainly one of the better offerings in some establishments. That said, I still prefer a nice, hand pulled, cellar cool pin though

Hmm, what would be an example of one of these?


I think the t was missed off pin - in which case I agree, you can't beat a proper pint of cask ale as opposed to bottled, even bottled conditioned or keg beer. Cask is essentually when beer is alive in the barrel in terms of fermentation and it is this that provides most of the pressure to the hand pump (or should). Keg beer is pasturised and a flat inert liquid in the barrel that needs artifical gas to pump it and to provide body to the pint. The big advantage for the pub trade of this is that it is long life and very consistent (consistently bad mind you), wheras cask ale has a short shelf life and can be variable in quality leading to more wastage. However, in terms of taste think of it as the difference between fresh milk and the UHT long life stuff.

It is slightly different with lagers or course (cask ale is very much a british institution), but even so it is possible to get cask lagers as opposed to the normal keg versions, while german wheat beer on draught is also very much a 'live' product.

[Simon-JG-hr]

Indeed, there is a missign 't'... :o

Hmm, what would be an example of one of these?Completely missed your question. The Captain's pretty much answered the question though. For illustrative purposes, however, I shall use the following picture for the second time in five minutes:

http://www.ukcigarforums.com/gallery/files/4/3/6/pint_pulling_at_jennings.jpg

The important point, however, being the temperature. The American sterotype of warm beer in Britain is incorrect (I also appreciate that many do not give the stereotype too much credence). Pubs are trying harder and harder, particularly big chains and clubs, to serve lager at ever closer to freezing temperatures. 'Real ale' (as it is often referred to over here), should ideally be served at around 10-14 degrees centigrade (I prefer it just at the cooler end) - this is not as cold as something out of the fridge, and certainly not as cold as a lager, but it's not warm. I generally call it cellar temp as it is the cellar which regulated the temperature, rarely is any kind of external cooling system used (other than a damp towel draped over the barrel).

[Drewmidorn]

And it still is! Like a lot of ales...(well, an engineered fish scale product these days)
:

I see...i've never been a beer drinker and know very little about it.... however i am an honorary Geordie. I know a lot about being cold!

[captain duff]

Nice pic there Simon - a Jennings full house if I'm not mistaken, would beat most hands that would :smile:

I have to say though that beer temperature is a very personal thing, and I actually prefer it less cool (cask ales that is) as if things are too cool you can mask flavours and smells. That said, it very much depends on the individual beer and the time of year - Its the same with wine as I like to chill most red wine in the fridge in the summer months (much like the Spanish do) but would never normally do so in the winter. And with beers, and specifically Jennings, cooler temperatures definately suit the lighter more hoppy Cocker Hoop, but not necissarily darker more malty Sneck Lifter (and in that sense again there is a bit of a wine link between white and red I guess)...

[Hencore]

As a geordie lad I'm rather partial to a drop of newkie broon. I don't like Ale's really but that one seems to go down no problem :p Shame it's brewed local anymore though.