Macs nd the OS they run on..?

[Habana-Habanos]

Hi all,

Was wondering if anyone here owns a Mac and would vouch for it? Tryed to get the OS working on my PC but I had an error and reverted to XP again. Hoping to duel boot in the near future and get OS X working but the amount of time it took to get kind of put me off!

-HH.

[r0lan6]

Own a macbook and a higher end macbook pro. Takes seconds to turn on compared to the multitude of PCs I've owned taking well over 2mins. Better style, simpler and better looking OS, more powerful for your moneys worth, more powerful full stop with profoundly higher RAM, better programs, better internet program, better support, sets the bar for touch pad technology, oh and have I mentioned how gorgeous they are?

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[Soulmanure]

I think we've had this discussion, but I have a mac and a pc, and Windows 7 is just as good and just as fast on the boot.

[Habana-Habanos]

Hmmmm, lol you contradict each other :p....

[Habana-Habanos]

Would you sell me one of your macbooks Rolan?

[r0lan6]

Sorry gave it to the other half. Unless you have spent a lot on a top of the range PC the mac will always be faster. I too own both, and sadly I use PCs at work, and they are slow. You can purchase the new macbook for just under a grand. Well worth it!

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[leperaffinity]

personally use an imac 24 and a vaio FW series for CAD CAM and a lot of rendering/ design work.
LOVE my mac...if i could just use the mac it would be so but some programs need windows to work efficiently..so i run both :)

btw dont try to run osx on a pc..its like lighting a cohiba with an oil fire.

[Soulmanure]

Yeah, I think you can only run windows on a mac--not vice versa.

[saggel]

Mac FanBoy here too...
If I can help, please let me know!

[daverave999]

It's no Linux though... :p

[tippexx]

G7 Tower. OS X Snow Leopard. Works for me!

[jibjob79]

+1 for macs. Very simple an intuitive, got 2 mac mini's set up to wide screen tvs and a macbook. Had no problems setting any of them up, syncing wirelessly is childplays. I cringe every time i have to use a PC at work.

[Deano]

Just bough a macbook pro. Imo over priced but I love OSX.

People stating that macs are faster is untrue, they use exactly the same hardware as PCs these days, and there's no difference in terms of specs.

[Drewmidorn]

I haven't had a PC for ten years... ALways had a mac laptop and a Tower. At the moment I've got the bottom of the range macbook and a dual quadcore powermac in the studio. Love them. They are expensive, but so are Aston Martin's.

However if you're the sort of fella who likes to get his hands on the OS and really customise programmimng then I imagine Linux is the way forward... I'm afraid I don't know enough about the alternative to Mac.

[tippexx]

Just bough a macbook pro. Imo over priced but I love OSX.

People stating that macs are faster is untrue, they use exactly the same hardware as PCs these days, and there's no difference in terms of specs.


Which is all a load of nonsense anyway, because whatever your on it can only go as fast as you!

[Habana-Habanos]

Yeah, I think I might build a normal tower and run Hackintosh on it...

[Deano]

Yeh I tried it a million times on a lot of different configs, could never get it to run.

[davidruddell]

Ah at last a subject that I'm not at noob status at!

I'm a Mac techie (hate the word analyst) and consultant to the publishing sector, in a previous incarnation I was a designer working on Macs.
PLEASE let me or someone redesign the forum headers! I'll do it for free, that font aaaaarrrggghhh. (sorry I'm a font Nazi)

Anyhoo, you can run Mac OS X on virtually any 'modern' PC hardware (I'm typing this on a Compaq Mini 311 running OS X 10.6.4 Snow Leopard, which also runs Windows 7 and a couple of flavours of Linux)

But make sure the hardware you use has already been used by others to run OS X first, they'll have done all the groundwork on getting all the peripheral hardware and system stuff to work, so that you don't have to.

The holy grail of resources is
http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

If you can't find the answer there, look for a forum for the hardware you want to use, they'll have ton's of advice on how to do it.

The customised OS X disk images to do this are "allegedly" freely available on them interwebs, I don't have PM yet (I think) but would be happy to discuss if I'm not breaking forum rules.

Despite what I do for a living I'm not a undiluted MacHead though, I've always said,
If you set up a design company using only PC's you're a ploon.
If you set up a small business doing everyday office tasks using Mac's you're a ploon too.

Macs are great at some things, colour management being the big one in publishing.

PC's are great at being great cheap office workhorses. (and killer Games machines)

It's very easy to mix and match PC's and Mac's in any kind of environment though.

Sermon over. (anyone want to hire me for some contract work!)

[r0lan6]

That is interesting and good to know Deano. Of course the PCs I have used were fairly outdated, with the one's at work being packed full of multiple running programs which would obviously slow down the system fairly infrequently. I do remain a Mac man finding them easier, simple, and not to mention beautiful. Entry level macbooks do remain far faster than any entry level PC laptops, which you can actually compare for yourself. Macpros, for me, set the bar for all laptops.

[Gryph]

MBP for travel, business and banking as it's so secure. High end PC desktop for gaming... And an iPad for the livingroom/must-look-something-up moment.

Biggest thing about mac for me is ease of use and reliability.

[Habana-Habanos]

Yeah, I have been playing with it loads over today and yesterday and like Deano's just won't work, at least I know why and have an answer now though, before I was frustrated as to not knowing why. Is there a distro available for an Intel 2 Core Q660 Quad processor?

At first it wouldn't work due to a problem with it not booting from the DVD for some reason. I chose from the HD and it worked (after 2 hours figuring, forum searching and a nights sleep LOL), I got it installed and then booted it up however it had a Kernel Panic when I booted (verbose). I realised it would be to do with the Kernel choice at the installation and saw the boot kernels weren't available for my type of Processor. Soo, I reinstalled and chose different kernels but I realised there weren't any available for mine.

Now I have gone back to XP and and going to be installing Windows 7 later..

Last time with windows 7 my internet wouldn't work due to the driver I had not working, funnily enough it works with vista without need of an ethernet/network driver. I will have to install and see, this time I am going to duel boot them so I can use XP if 7 doesn't work still.

[Habana-Habanos]

And to David, wouldn't mind getting help in finding a distro for my Hardware, when you get your PM's allowed I will send you my hardware list, if not I will post it here :D, just can't be bothered right now.

-HH.

[daverave999]

Sounds awfully complicated HH-you considered downloading Ubuntu and giving it a go?

[Habana-Habanos]

It is at first Dave, but you get used to all the geeky names they give to problems and parts of the installation and so forth and I pick up fast..

I have actually tried Ubuntu and gave up due to my internet not working on it, I did get the OS working though once just obviously can't live without my internet.

Regards.

-HH.

[Habana-Habanos]

Has anyone got any comments on how good Windows 7 is for Graphics and Design work?

I like to do Webdesign and graphics in my spare time and a reason as for going to try Snow leopard is for it being (apparently) better for that.

[Jaype]

I have to design using different computers all the time. I mostly use a Mac at home ~ CoreI7 27" imac with 16GB ram and all the trimmings...

I mainly like using a mac because of OSX... but they always cost more. The new range of imac's have really lovely monitor/panels in... so good that i opted to save the money on buying a macPro. There are still several programs that I run in 'paralells' on a mac, rather than dual booting - because there are so many OSX apps taht i find so essential to my workflow.

If using linux, I tend to use either Gentoo, Arch or Ubuntu (by far the easiest distro). Soon we'll all be running android anyway ;D

[Habana-Habanos]

Hehe, I might give Ubuntu a go again soon but I need to know exactly how to get the internet going with it before I would do so..

[daverave999]

How long ago did you last try it, and what was the issue with your internet? Chances are it will just work now...

[Habana-Habanos]

About 1.5 years ago or more. Why would it work now? My system is exactly the same..

[crslaytor]

I f****** hate it ! I am running debian on my macbook, it was a gift! I didn't f***** want it/.
Worse thing is I have tried to install mac osx(which is unix!) And I couldn't managed to do it in separeted partition ..all good,went to do back ups and format it all,but guess what!the grub is blown aeway for some reason lol!Now repairing grub! And when I think that only I wanted mac os just becauuse I want to run adobe pproducts properly! Gosh :)

[daverave999]

About 1.5 years ago or more. Why would it work now? My system is exactly the same..
The drivers get updated with each new release so as hardware gets older it gets better supported.


I could always knock up something like this?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidruddell/4844552058/


2nd attempt, improved font (I did explain I am a font Nazi)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidruddell/4844138189/lightbox/
Thumbs up from me. :)

[crslaytor]

All right , a week now with osx ..
It is really worry free! Everything works like a charm, but hey is it made to work with the hardware!
the unix system is stable enough, I havent even rebooted it yet after all the updates.
Lacking from software choice/support/whatever u call it!
and the thing i love is the suspending option, havent seen anythign faster, just close it and open it , all cool and ready to work in less than 2secs!

(Adobe products++)

[captain duff]

Ah at last a subject that I'm not at noob status at!

I'm a Mac techie (hate the word analyst) and consultant to the publishing sector, in a previous incarnation I was a designer working on Macs.
PLEASE let me or someone redesign the forum headers! I'll do it for free, that font aaaaarrrggghhh. (sorry I'm a font Nazi)

Anyhoo, you can run Mac OS X on virtually any 'modern' PC hardware (I'm typing this on a Compaq Mini 311 running OS X 10.6.4 Snow Leopard, which also runs Windows 7 and a couple of flavours of Linux)

But make sure the hardware you use has already been used by others to run OS X first, they'll have done all the groundwork on getting all the peripheral hardware and system stuff to work, so that you don't have to.

The holy grail of resources is
http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

If you can't find the answer there, look for a forum for the hardware you want to use, they'll have ton's of advice on how to do it.

The customised OS X disk images to do this are "allegedly" freely available on them interwebs, I don't have PM yet (I think) but would be happy to discuss if I'm not breaking forum rules.

Despite what I do for a living I'm not a undiluted MacHead though, I've always said,
If you set up a design company using only PC's you're a ploon.
If you set up a small business doing everyday office tasks using Mac's you're a ploon too.

Macs are great at some things, colour management being the big one in publishing.

PC's are great at being great cheap office workhorses. (and killer Games machines)

It's very easy to mix and match PC's and Mac's in any kind of environment though.

Sermon over. (anyone want to hire me for some contract work!)


Very good points - and techie stuff aside so far as application goes thats always been my feeling. I've always half wanted a mac because you can't beat them on style (sony vaios try hard though), particularly those top end mac books with aluminium covers. And of course windows always seems to have been a (inferior) copy of the mac os from the start. But, and it is a huge but, you don't half pay a premium for this style - 50% more for a like to like specced laptop for example, hence me staying on the PC side of the fence (and probably always will)...