Humidity Beads - Help

[Alex]

Im interested in the beads deano is selling, I understand how they work and what they do, I just need a few questions answering.

How long will half a pound last me in a 50ct humidor.
Do you just leave them in the net bag and pop them in the humidor.
Can you use this http://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/humidification-solution-100ml-p-3284.html or is it just distilled water, if so where can you buy distilled water.
Whats the best way of charging the bead.

Sorry for the dumb questions but I just don't get what you do with them:confused:

[Garibaldi]

More detailed answers to some of your questions can be found here - http://heartfeltindustries.com/faq.asp .

As I understand it the beads can last for years at a time, that being their entire lifespan and not the time between rehumidifying! The whole attraction of them is indeed that when 'charged' ( wet with distilled water ) they can be put in their bag, popped into the humidor, and forgotten about for months at a time.

Don't worry about that product from cgsltd, that's mostly for humidors that use the 'sponge' humidifier ( usually a black, grilled puck design ), hence the 'anti-mold' additive as humidors that use these humidifiers can suffer from that ( hence why I want to get mine out asap! ). It's a mixture which is added every now and then to condition the humidifier, as opposed to being used frequently.

Distilled water can be found at some supermarkets, hardware stores, and even places like Boots ( apparently ), though it's sometimes in the form of 'deionized water', but I think that the difference between that and distilled water is very slight ( might want to get someone else's confirmation on this ). You can also collect it from various appliances like room dehumidifiers and some tumble dryers, which is what I do.

[Stogiedog]

Alex

Halfords sell distilled water in various sizes mate.

Paul
Stogiedog

[Deano]

Can anyone else see this thread? http://www.ukcigarforums.com/showthread.php?t=703
Alex says he can't.
It's in the 'Humidors' forum.

[Garibaldi]

Just tried Deano, says I don't have permission to access it.

[Alex]

Yeah same message when i tried to access it.

[Robusto]

I can see it.

[TJCoro]

I got a message telling me I don't have access. Wazupwitdat?:confused:

[cj121]

Same problem here guys:frown:

[Stogiedog]

No access for me either.:frown:

[Deano]

Feck it, deleted it. My reply was:

It's (the distilled water) is the same thing, except the one you're pointing to on cgrsltd also has anti mold etc. It's what I use and would recommend. I even buy from the same place.

[daverave999]

We have a humidors forum!? Where is it? I'd have SO been in there lots, filling it with my experiments!

[EDIT] That stuff on cgars looks like 50/50 propylene glycol/distilled water solution to me. Heartfelt say not to use this, but someone on another forum contacted Dow Chemicals who reckon it will cause no damage to the beads whatsoever, though they would say that... It does make sense with respect to silica pore size though IMO. I'll see if I can find the link for added info.
Distilled water is where water is boiled and the steam condensed. It supposedly removes mineral content and organic molecules. Deionised water is run through ion-exchange resin to remove the mineral content but other non-mineral (ie. organics) will stay in there unless removed by being (unintentionally) caught in the exchange resin. In my opinion, there are unlikely to be significant enough levels of organic molecules to be concerned about, and it's the mineral content that will cause bead damage. I currently use deionised water.
Just for a laugh, I'll see if I can get some analysis done on my deionised water to see what else is in there. If I remember.

[EDIT2] Got it! Link here (http://www.cigarpass.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=32001).

[G-man]

Can't access it either?