bloody customs...

[Pantomimehorse]

Just got a card through the door saying I have a package with a customs charge for a wapping ?165.00!!!!! , really not a good start to the day, cant face going to the post office today but its a bloody cheek I tell ya!

:eviltongue:

[Robusto]

?165!!!!
How many plantations' worth did you buy, Pant???

Why can't they just look out for Class A material and leave these dandelions alone?

[Pantomimehorse]

only a box of 25, even then it seems high to me, does anyone know who they work out these figures to charge? theres no breakdown on the ticket they left just says I owe ?165.00!!!!

[daverave999]

Cigars are charged at ?163.22 per Kg (http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageExcise_RatesCodesTools&propertyType=document&id=HMCE_PROD1_027237), then I imagine they add VAT on top of that and charge you a fee to tell you this.

[Pantomimehorse]

ah that explains it then, the package is 2lbs acording to the website

[Ramon]

Bad Luck there. What was it you got and who did you order it from?

My last customs charge was for ?203 for a cab of Punch Punch at the end of last year.

The charges broke down like this:

Import Duty: ?7.80
Excise Duty: ?153.07
VAT: ?28.63
Parcel Force handling fee: ?13.50

Total: ?203

[daverave999]

Looks like they only charged you VAT on the other charges there Ramon. Could have been worse if there was a value of the cigars on the package!
Bad luck Pant.
*crosses fingers for my first parcel due to arrive soon*

[Mr Moore]

shit

[cj121]

Which sticks were they Panto as I have an idea...

[Boss Hog]

Unlucky mate, that's gotta hurt.

[Stogiedog]

Panto, unlucky mate, who did you order from?:(

[Ramon]

[quote=daverave999;10826]Looks like they only charged you VAT on the other charges there Ramon. Could have been worse if there was a value of the cigars on the package! /quote]

They charged VAT on the Import and Excise duty, the Excise duty is charged at the weight of the tobacco, not the value.

[Pantomimehorse]

well they are Makers Mark robustos, I love the bourbon so bought them on a bit of a whim, bloody wish I hadnt now!, but open to ideas?

[Boss Hog]

[quote=daverave999;10826]Looks like they only charged you VAT on the other charges there Ramon. Could have been worse if there was a value of the cigars on the package! /quote]

They charged VAT on the Import and Excise duty, the Excise duty is charged at the weight of the tobacco, not the value.

Please correct me I have mis-understood this but. :dontknow:
Did they open the parcel up take out the cigars and weigh them on there own or did they weigh the whole parcel, box included which may or may not be wooden? plus the weight of the packaging thus increasing the overall weight & cost.
Cant imaging actual cigar weight would be that much even for 25.
:idea:
If the parcel has been unopened when you collect it at the Post Office I would question the charge with a superior type person there to justify it based on actual weight of tobacco and quote a few figures as provided by dave,
You never know your luck, you could get it reduced. What have you got to lose apart from ?165.:Cry:

[Ramon]

well they are Makers Mark robustos, I love the bourbon so bought them on a bit of a whim, bloody wish I hadnt now!, but open to ideas?

Just having a quick look round the web at prices, I take it the tax they want is more than you paid for them? The only thing you can do is either have them returned to sender, or take the hit and pay the tax. Contact the vendor and see if you'll get a refund if they're returned. It may only be a partial refund though, as he may be charged tax on them entering the originating country again. Either way I think it's going to cost something.

Not good, and they're not even Cubans. My bill was for a 50 cab of Punch, so I paid it, still cheaper than UK prices. You win some you lose some.

[cj121]

[quote=Ramon;10835]

Please correct me I have mis-understood this but. :dontknow:
Did they open the parcel up take out the cigars and weigh them on there own or did they weigh the whole parcel, box included which may or may not be wooden? plus the weight of the packaging thus increasing the overall weight & cost.
Cant imaging actual cigar weight would be that much even for 25.
:idea:
If the parcel has been unopened when you collect it at the Post Office I would question the charge with a superior type person there to justify it based on actual weight of tobacco and quote a few figures as provided by dave,
You never know your luck, you could get it reduced. What have you got to lose apart from ?165.:Cry:


Now we're talking boys! My idea exactly. Get over to Cigar Review and find out the net weight of each stick. I reckon you'll be looking at a third of kg or thereabouts.
Gotta be worth making the effort. They assume peeps lie down and die. The law's there for everyone, so indulge yourself and do some homework mate.

[Ramon]

Did they open the parcel up take out the cigars and weigh them on there own or did they weigh the whole parcel, box included which may or may not be wooden? plus the weight of the packaging thus increasing the overall weight & cost.
Cant imaging actual cigar weight would be that much even for 25.



The package had been opened at the end, but the box not removed from the wrapping, so they could see what it was. Now whether they weighed the whole thing, or if they have a list of cigars with weights so they can work out the excise duty, I don't know. Not wanting to draw any unwanted attention to myself, and possibly any future parcels, I didn't query it.

[Pantomimehorse]

thanks guys Im going to try this weight thing see what they say, the thing is the supplier have allready sent a second lot but this time to my home address as this package was thought lost as I ordered it a couple of months ago, so Im wondering maybe the second one might get through? fingers crossed anyway.

I also have another plan if the weight thing doesnt work but careless talk about all that :smoke:

[daverave999]

They charged VAT on the Import and Excise duty, the Excise duty is charged at the weight of the tobacco, not the value.
Yeah, but I'm on about the VAT, which is. :D

Let us know how you get on Pant!

[Peanut]

bah, if I had only read this an hour ago!

[Stevieboy]

Hard lines Pant. I, and I'm sure everyone on the forum feels for you mate. Everyone's worst cigar nightmare.
I can't believe how much they charged you :frown:

[Mr Moore]

hard lines mate.

[larrysputnik]

That sucks.

[Stevieboy]

(edited)

[Stevieboy]

hard lines mate.
Love your reason for editing your post MM ie "it was incriminating" - would love to know what you said :tongue::tongue:

[Olls]

I'd just echo what other people on here have said in that when I worked out the potential tax cost for 25 robustos it came to around 90 quid, give or take. So I'd also guess that they've calculated the weight wrongly. Could be a form-filling nightmare to sort out though, I'm afraid. I'd be interested to know how you get on.

[G-man]

ah that explains it then, the package is 2lbs acording to the website
:hail:Pantomimehorse I know the package I sent U was on the thin side,
But 2 Lbs.Must have lost weight in transit. The directions that came with er said if this should happen just set in walkin humidor until she regains moisture. Then wine an dine er and all will be good. See and U thought they were charging U too much !LOL ROTF PMP
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[Stevieboy]

Jeez! That girl's been Photoshopped to within an inch of her life :eek:

[G-man]

Jeez! That girl's been Photoshopped to within an inch of her life :eek:
An I guess U would throw her out of bed?:der:
I would too!:rock:

























If I was handcuffed to her! LOL:eviltongue:Have a ggod sleep,who has time to sleep

[Pantomimehorse]

ok a kind of update, I managed to get my box from the feckers, shame the sticks arent all that :mad:

[Robusto]

What a pain, Pant!

[Mr Moore]

ok a kind of update, I managed to get my box from the feckers, shame the sticks arent all that :mad:


Nice work to get em back though, regardless of the sticks.

[Pantomimehorse]

true, I havent completely wrote them off, only had one but felt it was a tad too sweet.