escort ordu kıbrıs escort escort izmit escort bodrum escort rize escort konya escort kırklareli escort van halkalı escort escort erzurum escort sivas escort samsun escort tokat altinrehbereskisehir.com konyachad.com sakaryaehliyet.com tiktaktrabzon.com escortlarkibris.net canakkalesondaj.com kayseriyelek.com buderuskonya.com Lonsdales Review No 16. Trinidad Ingenios LE 2007 - UK Cigar Forums

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Lonsdales Review No 16. Trinidad Ingenios LE 2007

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Lonsdales Review No 16. Trinidad Ingenios LE 2007

    Trinidad Ingenios EL 2007
    Size: 165 x 42 ? Cervantes
    Smoke time: 1hour 10mins (Ended)
    Box date: As release. Source: www.mysmokingshop.co.uk

    Appearance: Elegant. Beautiful oily, deep tan ?toothy? wrapper with one raised vein and a slight crinkling to the lesser veins. Nicely applied cap, finished pig-tail.

    Construction: The cigar felt nicely packed and ?pinchy? along the barrel. On cutting, the cold draw was slightly resistive. The smoking draw was perfect and likewise was the burn. The ash was well compacted and faultless. No relights, no corrections required.

    Flavour: The pre-light aroma was musky barnyard. The start was disappointing, dry and woody. But after a few draws this was lightly lubricated by an underlying citric sweetness and something vaguely chemical, not totally unpleasant, but not pleasant in the usual organic manner of cigars. At about a half inch in things took a brief turn for the better when I picked up something reminiscent of stewed apple. The flavours strength in fairness was a good medium, but the sensation in the mouth was at this stage dry and powdery and without any feeling of refreshment. The third as it progressed carried a bit of sweetness but the predominant taste was wood ? not in the aromatic sence of the word ? think hardboard. Occasionally I could pick out little hints of something better and slightly acidic, but nothing I could put a name to. As the second third arrived the smoke texture had also changed and the tastes coating my tongue and mouth became greasy and fatty. The third itself was relatively unprogressive, the one plus change being the fleeting arrival of a sweet biscuitlike taste before everything descended into sawdust tasteing tobacco boredom. The final third just continued along the same lines. I just couldn?t be asked anymore and exercised the Davidoff perogative. The last picture is where I left it. Not a very good cigar IMO!

    Overall: The highlights of the Ingenios are the appearance, construction and pre-light aroma, everything after is downhill. I don?t want to put anyone of buying one because according to Retailers blurb and reviews by people probably better discerning than myself, the Ingenios is a cigar with great ageing potential. Codswallop, as far as I concerned it?s had five years and that ought be enough to give some kind of clue to it?s merit. IMHO there are far better Cuban Lonsdales. (Almost all of them are better if I?m to be ruthlessly honest!). The Ingenios is also on the limp side of weak, any newbee could handle the nicotine strength.

    Marks. I?m not sure it really deserves any, but on this smoking it gets 5.8 which puts in down in the Fonseca zone with no chance, not with five years, ten years or even a hundred years of ageing, of coming anywhere near close to a Partagas 898. So no change on the Leader Board.

    Next. Bolivar Lonsdales.
    Attached Files
    If you want to, you can.
    And, if you can, you must!

  • #2
    Wow Arf! first time I've really read you berating a cigar..must have been bad...do you think it may have been a flat point in the maturation with no chance of recovery?
    As for retailers blurb, they say the same for every release..Blah.blah.blah! I hold your reviews as un-biased & it certainly won't stop me buying 1.
    Great honest review as always.

    Comment


    • #3
      Dave, this is a ?20 cigar. And as far as I can read, from it's release people have been excusing it by saying this is one destined to get better in time. How whoever blended it could do so and make it so mediocre and still claim to have blending foresight to predict a classic is beyond me.

      Flat point, I don't know. I would need to have smoked one a year from 07 to really tell. I did smoke one last year and to be honest wasn't much taken with it. Regular production Fundadores and Colonales are miles better.
      If you want to, you can.
      And, if you can, you must!

      Comment


      • #4
        Great honest review. In this world of spin and marketing bullsht, it's good to have reviewers who tell it like it is. It's a shame that the cigar wasn't better though.
        If you want a midget to look like a baby, don't put a cigar in his mouth.

        Comment


        • #5
          I was rather hoping it was a flat spot as I got taken in by the hype & have got 5 stashed, normally I've found newer release cigars go a little dead at 2-3 years. I really don't listen to ageing predictions full-stop as there are just too many variables.

          My difference being I trust & like your reviews they're not point of sale so in my mind that makes them reliable & also tells me my hoard has just been de-valued by a ton!

          Comment


          • #6
            Aah the Ingenios… I don't know what exactly they tried to achieve when blending this cigar but obviously they failed. The dark aged maduro wrapper overwrites the Trinidad finesse… Ageing potential? Probable but not certain…

            Comment


            • #7
              I bought 2 of these and was so disappointed I've yet to get round to smoking the second. Can't believe Trini produced such a big, dull dud. Normally I love them...

              Comment


              • #8
                I have smoked two of these over the last few years and they have both been poor.

                Confused profile, not particularly pleasant. If you ever want an example of a maduro wrapper ruining a cigar this is it. This could have been great as the trini blend suits slimmer sticks ...but this one sucks.

                I don't believe they have any likely ageing potential. The mild trini blend will never get it's head above the stupid wrapper.

                Sent from happy, clappy, tappy.
                Originally posted by Simon Bolivar
                Little medical correction there Steve, you will surely die...but not from smoking these

                Originally posted by Ryan
                I think that's for lighting electronic cigarettes

                Comment


                • #9
                  I've got one of these in my humidor and a long day ahead of me sorting out my shed so I will give it a go.
                  Nic
                  Editor UK Cigar Scene Magazine

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    I am glad I was not the only one who always thought these were vastly overrated.

                    Nice job once again.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jacobwaits View Post
                      I am glad I was not the only one who always thought these were vastly overrated.

                      Nice job once again.
                      Not sure anyone ever rated them?
                      Originally posted by Simon Bolivar
                      Little medical correction there Steve, you will surely die...but not from smoking these

                      Originally posted by Ryan
                      I think that's for lighting electronic cigarettes

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        OK, smoked mine this afternoon. The first thing I have to say is that I have never smelt a cigar like this unlit. It's unbelievably floral, I mean seriously like a florists shop. It also smells beautiful lit but while it was an Ok smoke it was nothing amazing. It was quite smooth but it didn't develop like a Fundadores but then that is judging it by the standards of my favorite cigar.

                        I don't have any more and I wouldn't go out of my way to get any more. OK but nothing amazing.
                        Nic
                        Editor UK Cigar Scene Magazine

                        Comment

                        Working...
                        X