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  • Vegueros Especiales No 2

    Vegueros Especiales No 2
    Size: 152 mm x 38 ? Laguito No 2
    Smoke time: 1 hour 20mins
    Box date: 2006/07.. Source: Seng

    This cigar was kindly gifted to me last year by Seng as part of an ?extra group? to the Forum Cuban MAW. The Vegueros brand, as I?m sure all are aware, was deleted by Habanos during 2012.

    Appearance: Take away the naff looking Vegueros band and the cigar is very pleasing with a rich brown, parchment toothed oily wrapper carrying a light tracery of fine veins. The wrap spiral is barely visible all the way up to the nicely finished triple cap which is finished pig-tail.

    Construction: Good in the hand with a nice heft, the Esp2 felt very densely packed along it?s entire length. The cold draw was quite tight and the smoking draw a little more resistive than I prefer but easily manageable. The burn was unerring and totally online throughout the smoke. The ash was very compacted and I needed to be a little heavier handed than usual in the ?tapping off?. No re-lights. No corrections required.

    Flavour: The pre-light aroma was grassy with a light undernote of something herbaceous, possibly Sage. The taste start was electric, on the cusp between sweet sugary and tart and akin to stewed gooseberries. This gave way slowly to base flavours of the third which were a sweet grass/wood and acidic lemon citrus. Now, this is the hard part. Sometimes the lemon would be sweet, sometimes sour. Sometimes the wood notes would be the more prominent, sometimes they would recede to the back, but whichever way the joined taste was delicious and totally refreshing to the mouth. Towards the end of the third the Esp2 did something bordering on miraculous, it achieved a 50/50 between the two tastes, and it was divine.
    Some way into the second third and the grass/wood began it?s ascendance, I was also picking out some bean notes and the lemon tastes although having slipped back were still alternating between sweet and sour, and then just for several puffs changed completely to sweet, caramalised apple. Closing towards the final third and the wood tastes became softly charred and toastlike. Unusually for me, I thought the final third was the best. The sweet citrus although constant gradually became weaker, for a while the taste sensation was that of toast with thinly spread marmalade, warm mellow and comforting. Moving through the third and the grass/woods were replaced by smooth, rich roasted tobacco and a touch of sweet Americano sharpness which offset any aggression or single dimensionality, and which in the final puffs of the smoke changed to something akin to creamy Galaxy chocolate. If I had a nubber I would have smoked it even further.

    Overall: I remember a well respected BOTL, Noah I?m looking at you, describing these as ?grass, grass and more grass?. Well, I don?t know what?s happened, I can only think these have been in some sort of arrested development are now, after six or seven years in the box, undergoing a metamorphosis into something remarkable, because they?re certainly NOT the ?one-trick pony? they?ve been reported to be. The tastes and balance are excellent, the smoking sensation is simultaneously refreshing, mellow and luxurious. Lovers of a nicotine hit will be a little disappointed as I didn?t experience much in the way of tobacco strength, but the quality of flavours should more than compensate. Brilliant cigar!

    Seng, if you?ve more in the same vintage, dig one out mate, it?s Summer where you are so try it with a good dry White or a very dry beer like Peroni Gran Riserva.
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    If you want to, you can.
    And, if you can, you must!

  • #2
    Nice review of a now elusive stick Tipp

    Sounds like they have quite a unique flavour profile.
    Exploring the world - one smoke at a time.

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    • #3
      Aye, anotehr good review of a much maliagned brand.
      Simon Bolivar: Liberator of Bolivia, Ecuador, Peru & Venezuela.

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      • #4
        Great review Arf. I keep eying up some '98's but have not got up the nerve to pull the trigger. Sounds like you hit a real sweet spot with that one.
        Originally posted by Simon Bolivar
        Little medical correction there Steve, you will surely die...but not from smoking these

        Originally posted by Ryan
        I think that's for lighting electronic cigarettes

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        • #5
          Great review Tipp. This is the only Cuban brand I've never tried...they wound well worth hunting down

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          • #6
            Cheers for the review arf, will certainly be grabbing a single for trying..

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            • #7
              Originally posted by monkey66 View Post
              I keep eying up some '98's
              I've seen some 01's for ?120. Seng now thinks the date I've given is wrong and the cigar was one of a number he bought from the 2003 Aniversario Humidor.
              If you want to, you can.
              And, if you can, you must!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tippexx View Post
                I've seen some 01's for ?120. Seng now thinks the date I've given is wrong and the cigar was one of a number he bought from the 2003 Aniversario Humidor.
                Well that may explain your very positive experience, not regular stock but from a high-end, special release humidor. You may need to smoke a regular production to compare.
                Originally posted by Simon Bolivar
                Little medical correction there Steve, you will surely die...but not from smoking these

                Originally posted by Ryan
                I think that's for lighting electronic cigarettes

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by monkey66 View Post
                  not regular stock but from a high-end, special release humidor.
                  Possibly. Although I thought the humidor content were meant to carry the same DNA as regular production. But to be honest, I've not (knowingly) smoked anything from any special humidor, so really wouldn't know if there is a difference.

                  Originally posted by monkey66 View Post
                  You may need to smoke a regular production to compare.
                  Just been through the UK vendors on the look out for a single. Nada. Were these ever sold in the UK?
                  If you want to, you can.
                  And, if you can, you must!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tippexx View Post
                    Possibly. Although I thought the humidor content were meant to carry the same DNA as regular production. But to be honest, I've not (knowingly) smoked anything from any special humidor, so really wouldn't know if there is a difference.



                    Just been through the UK vendors on the look out for a single. Nada. Were these ever sold in the UK?
                    Sometimes the humidors have a new release vitola, like the Trinidad Patrimonios in their Millennium offering but essentially IMHO they should be the same...

                    Got mine from Tranters in Cambridge..unfortunately he's no longer there!

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                    • #11
                      My experience of the 'special' humidors is that at a minimum they are an optimal version of the cigar. I think this means close attention is paid to bundles/blending, and one or two top-level rollers are assigned to the entire series of humidors.

                      In other words (as a minimum) it should be as close to perfect version of the basic vitola without the usual quality swings we see on nearly all production CC's. I think I have probably smoked about 4 or 5 cigars from 'special release' humidors over the years and (if memory serves) they have all been of exemplary quality of build, appearance and blend (not sure if they justify the price though).

                      I don't know about this specific humidor though so it is always possible they are regular production sticks (off the line) in a nice box, but I would doubt that is likely. People pay a significant premium for those humidors and expect a very high standard.


                      Can you imagine a world where all regular production CC's were as good as the best ones (without the qc issues)
                      Originally posted by Simon Bolivar
                      Little medical correction there Steve, you will surely die...but not from smoking these

                      Originally posted by Ryan
                      I think that's for lighting electronic cigarettes

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                      • #12
                        This is one of the Vegueros I've always quite liked! (unlike most other BOTL in the past) it is a unique profile in the cigar world, very well described by Arf. The Seoane has a similar taste profile if not quite as complex but can almost edge towards a minty lemon zest! this is the only Brand that my wife comments that she likes the aromer of in the room....



                        Would recommend anyone to give them a try, they are quite herbaceous and aromatic in style.

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                        • #13
                          I tried a Seoane that I picked up at the factory in Pinar del Rio, rather enjoyed it, when smoked back at the hotel in Valdero.
                          Simon Bolivar: Liberator of Bolivia, Ecuador, Peru & Venezuela.

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