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    Just watched the above film for the first time since the cigar interest bit me. Throughout the movie Clint smokes long thin cigars which are so long he cuts them into sections and pockets what he's not smoking for later.
    Is this a true practice, or is it complete dramatisation?

    Google search suggests the stogies were Virginians, but when I search that name nothing comes up.

    At a complete guess I would estimate that they are somewhere between a Lonsdale and a Panatella in gauge but much longer before he cuts them. Is this the way cigars were sold in the olden days, was the customer expected to cut them theirselves? Are any cigars still sold that fit this archetype?
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    Good question, Senor Herr Monsieur Guy!
    The answer is a sure as day: no. Do not do that with any cigar that comes with a band. The master blenders make sure the tobacco is fermented accordingly and nicely packed so that it burns a specific way but also so that the burn affects the cigar as a whole in a specific manner. The pleasant smoke that erupts when the cigar is lit doesn't just get blown out the foot and into mother nature's nostrils. Rather, most of it is brought out through the chambers of the cigar itself and flavours the unburnt tobacco with the smoke (reason why a half lit cigar stinks up the place soooo much as it releases the smoke into your room, bag, carpet, table, etc) so that when that part of the cigar is smoked, it releases even more aromas to be picked up by not only your mouth, but the cigar as well. That run-on sentence up there is the reason why master blenders exist. They're the ones who know how the cigar will develop when more and more smoke is being taken on.
    To cut a small part of the cigar off is to restrict the rest of the cigar from various aromas that it was meant to pick up PRIOR to being lit and thus changing the ENTIRE cigar experience. No one would dare publish a review if even a cm was cut off the cigar.. This includes when the cigar goes out half way and you have the urge to cut it. That's even looked down upon most of the time.

    Originally posted by ValeTudoGuy View Post
    Are any cigars still sold that fit this archetype?
    Not that i know of. Any of you blokes wanna chip in? Preferably ones who've been around the track a couple of times? Personally, i wouldn't mind cutting the CAO Double Corona in half and smoking that thing. I don't care who it disrespects, that cigar disrespected me!
    Originally posted by ValeTudoGuy
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    • #3
      As a side note, I watched a YouTube video review for a xikar cutter recently, where the guy demonstrated the efficiency by lopping a cigar in two, mid-length and said it could be used when "you have really long cigars and want to get two or three shorter ones" wtf
      "Go you good things...geddem int'ya"

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      • #4



        Toscano cigars are designed to be cut in half.

        The cigars he smoked were probably Marsh Wheelings, in his other films he smoked Parodi and other italian smokes. As to cutting other cigars in half, I know people that do it and while not ideal its not the end of the world.

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        • #5
          Clint Eastwood first smoked cigars in a Fist Full of Dollars..
          They were a virginia blend which he gave no name to..they were bought by him as a prop on his way to the film set.
          He did not smoke other than when in character..

          Once best known as a western and action star, Clint Eastwood has shown he is just as capable a director. He stars as a disgruntled, racist war veteran in the new film Gran Torino.
          Last edited by Puff Scotty; 01-09-2013, 07:45 PM. Reason: Still doesn't look like a link.....bummer!!!

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          • #6
            Loved the trilogy, a little too much ......
            '22 ....22 ....?'
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            • #7
              I have read previously that Clint reduced the size of his panatelas so with several takes ect & fiming some takes before others in the flims natural order, it wouldn't apear that he had a short cigar & a few moments later it had got larger.
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              • #8
                here's a 'wiki' link that gives a good idea:
                Clint Eastwood said in a recent interview that he brought the cigars from the US & they were called "Virginians" & described them as a strong smoke that put him in a foul mood. He liked them cause the were long & skinny & he would chop them into thirds to fit in his pocket. Traditional Toscani dry cured cigars (in the vein of DeNobili's) were my guess for a long time due to it being shot in Italy, but alas, this is not the case. It has long been speculated that what he was smoking was the nub of a Marsh Wheeling cigar ( http://www.broadleafcigars.com/wheeling.htm ) which is probably the most period accurate smoke that you can still buy. They are a 7" x 34 ring smoke & can be considered hearty in comparison to other smokes of it's ilk. I believe that Clint's "Virginian" brand smoke was any one of the million different Marsh Wheeling style knock off brands that was available in the 1960's. I can't find a Google reference for it, so I am sure the brand is long dead & gone, but Wheeling's still exist if you want the experience.




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                • #9
                  That's why I put this link in Alex...from the horses mouth as such..his own words in interview..

                  http://www.npr.org/2008/12/12/981810...in-gran-torino

                  I wouldn't be brave enough to call Clint a fibber....

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Puff Scotty View Post
                    That's why I put this link in Alex...from the horses mouth as such..his own words in interview..

                    http://www.npr.org/2008/12/12/981810...in-gran-torino

                    I wouldn't be brave enough to call Clint a fibber....
                    sorry dave, i never noticed that link!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by senor_robusto View Post
                      sorry dave, i never noticed that link!!
                      my fault entirely Alex, for not highlighting the link properly...it does look more like a signature rather than a link...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by butternutsquashpie View Post
                        Good question, Senor Herr Monsieur Guy!
                        The answer is a sure as day: no. Do not do that with any cigar that comes with a band. The master blenders make sure the tobacco is fermented accordingly and nicely packed so that it burns a specific way but also so that the burn affects the cigar as a whole in a specific manner. The pleasant smoke that erupts when the cigar is lit doesn't just get blown out the foot and into mother nature's nostrils. Rather, most of it is brought out through the chambers of the cigar itself and flavours the unburnt tobacco with the smoke (reason why a half lit cigar stinks up the place soooo much as it releases the smoke into your room, bag, carpet, table, etc) so that when that part of the cigar is smoked, it releases even more aromas to be picked up by not only your mouth, but the cigar as well. That run-on sentence up there is the reason why master blenders exist. They're the ones who know how the cigar will develop when more and more smoke is being taken on.
                        To cut a small part of the cigar off is to restrict the rest of the cigar from various aromas that it was meant to pick up PRIOR to being lit and thus changing the ENTIRE cigar experience. No one would dare publish a review if even a cm was cut off the cigar.. This includes when the cigar goes out half way and you have the urge to cut it. That's even looked down upon most of the time.



                        Not that i know of. Any of you blokes wanna chip in? Preferably ones who've been around the track a couple of times? Personally, i wouldn't mind cutting the CAO Double Corona in half and smoking that thing. I don't care who it disrespects, that cigar disrespected me!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by fordi View Post
                          Jeremy I wish you lived in Sheffield fella.
                          Love the weather here? come down! I've got a few Canadian REs with your name on them
                          Originally posted by ValeTudoGuy
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                          • #14
                            Gran Torino...Love that movie, se?or puff-n-stuff!

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                            • #15
                              Always thought he smoked the italian toscani cigars curiosity got the better of me so looked it up and i was right.


                              what-type-of-cigar-did-clint-eastwood-smoke-in-his-western-movies

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