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groundhog
03-11-2014, 04:44 PM
My laptop has died. It is an ex laptop.
I need to replace it, but have been told in no uncertain terms that I am not allowed to buy a new one until April.
That would suck, so am looking at second hand -

What's the lowest spec I can get away with in a laptop for the following:
Streaming video
Watching films from hdd
Downloading from newsgroups
Managing home network.
Apparently I need to be looking at second hand or refurbished. (I knew there was a catch to the shed!).

Ideally would like something that has replaceable Ram, rather than fixed onboard - so the same thing can't happen again!

I have a chromebook, but it can't do the above except for streaming video.
And although I can watch films on it, the screen isn't big enough for wife and I to watch while we're away at the hospice.
So I need something with at least a 15" screen, I think.

And it needs to be cheap! (Apple is not cheap - I am most definitely not looking for any Apple based products - nope, not even second had....).

ValeTudoGuy
03-11-2014, 05:13 PM
Are you comfortable trying a new operating system? If so Lubuntu will do that On a surprisingly old system. If not you can get a reasonable i5 with 4 or 6 gig of ram that will do that without breaking a sweat. Heck I do all of that and more on a Core2 Duo with 4 Gig ram without any issues.

cigarmo
03-11-2014, 05:17 PM
none of the things you want to do are demanding, so even a basic laptop will do. I would suggest anything with a dual core cpu and 4GB of ram. but be warned many of the recon laptops on ebay are not good, they have normally had a very bad reflow job done on them and break after a month or so.

try here if you really must buy used. but the price deference these days can be very small, when pc world (chokes on words) often have laptops for around 200

http://www.morgancomputers.co.uk/

ValeTudoGuy
03-11-2014, 05:22 PM
Sorry I can't say if the ram is inbuilt but it has an i3 which should be powerful enough to decode HD content.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/laptops-netbooks/laptops/laptops/lenovo-g500-15-6-laptop-black-10022716-pdt.html

groundhog
03-11-2014, 05:41 PM
I've been eyeing that one up on amazon with 1tb hdd and 8gb ram - 330 though, so :-(
Have found this, but know nothing of amd processors:
http://www.gumtree.com/p/laptops/toshiba-c50-d-amd-windows-8-4gb-500gb/1087410054

ValeTudoGuy
03-11-2014, 05:50 PM
To put it bluntly, I think that processor is shit. It's not even Celeron level.

cigarmo
03-11-2014, 05:51 PM
no they are terrible

groundhog
03-11-2014, 06:28 PM
Blunt is good.
I have no idea when it comes to amd stuff.

Ross.Co
03-11-2014, 09:41 PM
Blunt is good.
I have no idea when it comes to amd stuff.

Aloha. You thought I would start a thread and not come back to check on it? So long as it gets peoples asking questions, then we are all the much better for it.

As I am just getting up to speed, you are getting a BSOD on boot up. I can see that thoughts were then aligned to it being memory. Is there no way for you go go into post (the terminology of post is typically when your OS (Operating System) takes over)?

If that is a no go and the fact it is fixated RAM (really pisses me off), then I would say good night old faithful, unless you can get me into a safe mode on there? Anything?

Next, what is your absolute top level spend for a new laptop? Remember, every Great British Pound you can give me, gives you less load times, less boot up times, less waiting for programs to run and a decent warranty to boot....You catch my drift!

Look forward to hearing from you :smile:

Ross.Co

groundhog
03-11-2014, 11:55 PM
It's worse than that, it's dead Jim!

So onto pastures new.....

http://www.ebuyer.com/645880-lenovo-b50-laptop-mca28uk

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Toshiba_Satellite_Pro_C50-A-1MM_4GB_500GB_Windows_8.1_Laptop_in_Black__PSCG7E-038041EN/version.asp

Two contenders.

cigarmo
04-11-2014, 12:02 AM
The Lenovo mate

ValeTudoGuy
04-11-2014, 12:14 AM
Hmm, are you seeing something I don't Mo? The Toshiba has a quicker processor and a bigger hard drive..... Though all the Lenovo hardware I have seen has been top notch.

cigarmo
04-11-2014, 12:27 AM
The cup is slightly faster but would not be noticed with the use he intends. The hard drive although a little bigger will be a toshiba drive one of the worst brands. Toshiba has no dvd drive he wants to watch movies. They are the same price so I would go Lenovo better build quality too.

butternutsquashpie
04-11-2014, 04:36 AM
I bought my spare parts and assembled it myself. 700 for the build of a 900 dollar computer. but on top of that, I bought customisability.

In other words, if I wanted to add 2 more CD drives, I could do that without issue in 10 minutes. If i wanted to increase RAM, I just stick another 2GB stick into the slot. When the computer becomes outdated, I just have to change one part every 1-2 years and it'll keep up with the advances of the modern age. Very well.

ValeTudoGuy
04-11-2014, 08:32 AM
Butters, groundhog wants a laptop.

groundhog
04-11-2014, 09:08 AM
Very true!

New option - g50-30
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/lenovo/g-series/g50/
But then I end up looking at this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-G500-15-6-inch-Laptop-Integrated/dp/B00H3AV8QU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415091611&sr=8-1&keywords=lenovo+g
which is well out of budget

cigarmo
04-11-2014, 09:17 AM
Butters, groundhog wants a laptop.

lmao:biggrin1:

ValeTudoGuy
04-11-2014, 09:48 AM
Very true!

New option - g50-30
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/lenovo/g-series/g50/
But then I end up looking at this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-G500-15-6-inch-Laptop-Integrated/dp/B00H3AV8QU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415091611&sr=8-1&keywords=lenovo+g
which is well out of budget

Both look like good deals, the i3 is quite a bit more powerful, if your happy to spend that much I think it's a better option.

ValeTudoGuy
04-11-2014, 10:01 AM
I just had a look and Tech radar effectively say that the Lenovo G500 is some of the best bang for buck at the low end of the laptop world.

groundhog
04-11-2014, 10:16 AM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/04/83db56ace23756800fcb728da810eccf.jpg

She's alive... ALIIIIIIIVE!

and now I'm more confused than ever...

cigarmo
04-11-2014, 10:18 AM
Quick backup all your stuff.

groundhog
04-11-2014, 10:21 AM
Already backed up. Plus I have a docking station for the hard drive if it goes poo shaped..
Would like to find out what the chuff is going on with it...

Ross.Co
04-11-2014, 10:53 AM
Already backed up. Plus I have a docking station for the hard drive if it goes poo shaped..
Would like to find out what the chuff is going on with it...
Can you download Memtest and run it whilst she is alive? Also, what AV are you using at present?

If you are looking far a laptop, I can only recommend Lenovo as the laptop to get. Build quality is far superior when compared to other vendors. Toshiba as someone has already have said is a turd.

Ross.Co

groundhog
04-11-2014, 10:54 AM
Just running a few scans then will run memtest.
Av? In which sense?

cigarmo
04-11-2014, 10:55 AM
Download blue screen analyser, memtest boot disk, and check windows logs.
run blue screen analayser see if it gives any drivers causing the bsod.
boot from memtest and run checks.
check in windows logs see if there is any clues.
check that it's fan is still working and not blocked.

groundhog
04-11-2014, 12:10 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/04/741c19b8fafc1b4aa2f5cbbca13554a7.jpg

Very odd....

cigarmo
04-11-2014, 12:28 PM
Click on one to show more details and post pic

groundhog
04-11-2014, 12:41 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/04/112403df5d8b3b763edd5bf3b1984a21.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/04/ba580800cfbcb4864c5e4e7a824f10c3.jpg

cigarmo
04-11-2014, 01:43 PM
Ok the first one is just that the pc crashed. The second one means that the power management software is not right.
go in bios reset to default.
go in power settings in windows and set to high performance .

then check if that error continues

mattyhall22
05-11-2014, 07:20 PM
make sure your wearing clothes in the reflection when taking photos of computer screens :biggrin1:

Ross.Co
05-11-2014, 10:39 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/04/112403df5d8b3b763edd5bf3b1984a21.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/04/ba580800cfbcb4864c5e4e7a824f10c3.jpg

Evening Groundhog - Apologies, not been about the last day or so, although the mighty mo seems like he knows what he is talking about so virtual high five for him :) Where are we with your lappie? Is it still booting?