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monkey66
09-09-2009, 08:43 PM
So I am not sure if this is a fair review or not.....

Having rested this new Edicion Limitada (purchased from Harrods on Sat) for at least 2 days I decided to fire it up.

Appearance - Stunning, dark brown silky wrapper, lovely construction.

Gave it a snip and tried the draw pre-light. Very easy pull but not much going on dry-taste wise. No sweetness or aroma to speak of.

Went out into the sunshine and fired her up. Easy draw, loads of smoke, even burn, nice silver-white long ash.

The only thing I didn't like was the taste. By didn't like I mean (to my pallet) almost unsmokable. I found this stick strong (hurt my throat) and harsh. The taste was not particularly nice and I began to feel nauseous. I thought to myself 'you lightweight, can't you handle a full bodied cigar'. I forced myself to smoke a bit over half way and then dumped it. This was by far the least enjoyable quality Cuban I have ever smoked.

I have been questioning myself over this but I have to blame the stick. I am no stranger to full bodied smokes (D4/RASS/Magicos etc) and frequently enjoy them. I did not expect such a new stick to be at it's best but I did imagine it would be smokable without making me feel sick.

I am concious that this may be a one off so don't be put off by my experience. Who else has smoked one of these and what was your take?

El Catador
11-01-2010, 03:42 PM
My apologies for resurecting such an old thread, but I was curious to see if other members had experienced these first hand.

I'm tempted to get my hands on some slightly shorter smokes for when time is an issue, and was considering some of the current crop of 'Edicion Limitadas' such the (above) Boliva and/or the Partagas Series D No. 5 and H. Upmann Magnum 48, so was wondering what opinions other forum members had on these sticks.
Anybody got any recommendations?

Big_T_UK
11-01-2010, 03:50 PM
I do not think you need to say sorry for reviving an old thread, LOL.

All I can add to this is I love the Bolivar Belicosos Finos, I am smoking my way through a 2001 cabinet when I am in London (sadly not mine). I really like this cigar and BURN to buy a cab of 25 of my own.

I looked forward to smoking its smaller brother when I went to the tasting at the Boisdale. I have had this cigar twice now and have been bored each time. I do not find it particularly strong but only the Cain has given me pause for thought strength wise. I just cannot enthuse about this cigar, perhaps with a few years on it. They are only available in dress boxes, not cabinets which makes them a little less attractive to me as an ageing proposition.

T.

Ligero
11-01-2010, 04:09 PM
I agree with monkey66.
The few Petit Belicosos i smoked were not worth the money. Maybe in 3-5 years, or not. I donīt know.
I only know, i would spend my money for better Bolivars such as Belicosos Finos or Coronas Gigantes:smoke:.

HabanoSy
11-01-2010, 06:15 PM
More time needed for these to show their true potential...

At the very least 3 years...!?!

Cheers, HabanoSy

El Catador
11-01-2010, 11:01 PM
I just cannot enthuse about this cigar, perhaps with a few years on it.


Maybe in 3-5 years, or not. I donīt know.
I only know, i would spend my money for better Bolivars such as Belicosos Finos or Coronas Gigantes:smoke:.


More time needed for these to show their true potential...

At the very least 3 years...!?!

Cheers, HabanoSy

Cheers guys, I guess I thought it might be the case. Good to have it confirmed prior to shelling out though, so many thanks.

I missed out on some Trini EL's that were up at a good price, and didn't want the same to happen with this years crop of EL's if there was something worth having, hence the question.
I guess I was really after something that I could dip into confidently from day one without it sitting around for a few years. So, perhaps these aren't for me at the moment. Probably just as well as the list of 'possibles' is already making my wallet nervous.

Did you hear that? I just opened it and it squeaked! :eek:

Drewmidorn
11-01-2010, 11:17 PM
I'll be honest I found it a really ordinary smoke... nothing to write home about at all.

Luis
13-01-2010, 10:30 PM
Not a fan either after two tries .Found it too strong with rather unpleasant smoke and smell. will let the box sleep for some time

ronin
13-01-2010, 10:42 PM
Of all the EL's I have smoked, I have found this to be very disappointing. To me, they don't have that Boli profile or punch. Kind of like vanilla ice cream.

Deano
14-01-2010, 09:27 AM
As Luis said, and the original review, I found it too much, one I won't be getting.

saggel
14-01-2010, 09:40 AM
I got one as a present from my brother and I was planning to let it rest for three months in the humidor. Do you think I should give it a full year or more?

tippexx
14-01-2010, 10:04 AM
[QUOTE=monkey66;35472]

Appearance - Stunning, dark brown silky wrapper, lovely construction.

All Petit Belicosos IMO look great. Something thoroughbred, almost Aston Martin looking about them, so you would expect them to deliver. So far I haven't seen one really passionate and favourable review for any. Shame really.

G-man
15-01-2010, 12:43 PM
Sounds like a real powerhouse of a cigar. Yum If it delivers a buzzzzzzzzzz I'm all for it and if theirs no flavor they can keep it .

saggel
16-01-2010, 12:12 PM
I got one as a present from my brother and I was planning to let it rest for three months in the humidor. Do you think I should give it a full year or more?

Any ideas on this? :cowboyic9:

Deano
16-01-2010, 12:13 PM
Yeh. I got a lot of ammonia, or what I thought was ammonia, and I reckon they need a good year or so before they're smokeable.

saggel
16-01-2010, 12:50 PM
Yeh. I got a lot of ammonia, or what I thought was ammonia, and I reckon they need a good year or so before they're smokeable.

So a year for a start it is...!!!! Thanx!!!!! :cowboyic9:

Seriesteve
16-01-2010, 12:54 PM
I tried one last night and these are going through there Sick Period :p, my advice, as most have already said, they need a year's rest and then have a look again, just dated mine to remind me .Jan 2011 :cowboyic9:
"Aye have to be Patient"

saggel
16-01-2010, 12:56 PM
and then have a look again

I only have one... :cowboyic9:

Seriesteve
16-01-2010, 01:00 PM
I only have one... :cowboyic9:
Save it, dont waste it by smoking it now IMHO these need a long rest.
Ss

SteveGriff
16-01-2010, 01:13 PM
I had one of these last August and like many people have said in this thread, they're a little too young. I thought they had some wonderful flavours but we're unbalanced and just so rough around the edges. Let them rest. I wouldn't be surprised that in two years ago that plenty of boxes of these will be floating around at a reasonable price that they will be at a good point to buy and smoke.

chicagoraven
16-01-2010, 04:09 PM
Its a shame that this cigar is a let down...especially considering how good the RyJ Duke is.

Smallclub
16-01-2010, 04:58 PM
I agree with the above suggestions of letting it rest. I've found the petit belicoso way too strong, completely unbalanced.

monkey66
17-01-2010, 09:07 AM
There does seem to be a collective conclusion here:
The PBEL09 is not ready to smoke now (indeed for some almost un-smokable)
It MAY come good in 2-5 years time.
Lay down and see, perhaps the'll become great, perhaps not.

BTW - Can anyone name a smoke that was un-smokable for the first year but went on to be 'a bit of teriffic' (Look - no butter, no pastry, and no Sugar!).

Seriesteve
17-01-2010, 09:54 AM
not.

BTW - Can anyone name a smoke that was un-smokable for the first year but went on to be 'a bit of teriffic' (Look - no butter, no pastry, and no Sugar!).

Good question... I've started a new thread http://www.ukcigarforums.com/showthread.php?t=4263
Ss

jbrookeiv
17-01-2010, 10:04 AM
Just to let you guys know, I posted a review of this cigar on my website here: http://theweeklycigar.com/cigars-reviews/bolivar-petit-belicosos-edicion-limitada-2009-cuban-cigar-review/

That was actually a guest review, but my reviewer enjoyed the cigar but thought it needed some definite age. Is that the consensus you guys have come to?

Zigatoh
12-08-2011, 02:46 PM
Great way to start by reviving an old thread but anyway, just for info, had one of these last night and while they definitely are improving, there's still a good whack of ammonia at the back of the throat... So while I think the light is appearing at the end of the tunnel I'd guess at least another couple of years would be good for these :)