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ChrisMClark
09-11-2009, 11:33 AM
Now, the reviews I find online are anything but nice about anything from the Gauntanamera range...so I'm wondering what you guys' feelings are. I had a Cristale some time ago that my parents bought back, and I didn't think t was great, but it was smokable, and I actually enjoyed it, especially for a machine made stick.

So what are people's opinions of the Guantanamera range?

PoohBore
09-11-2009, 12:39 PM
Gauntanamera = :puke:

But that's just my newbie opinion. I'm sure the more experienced guys will be along shortly

daverave999
09-11-2009, 12:55 PM
Never tried one I'm afraid. Been put off by the majority of bad reviews. I believe they were discontinued in 2005? If they are still readily available, it doesn't bode well...

Ryan
09-11-2009, 12:59 PM
They smell like sick. Actual sick, from somebody who had been drinking Southern Comfort.

Robusto
09-11-2009, 01:11 PM
Our allocated Welcome To Havana guide a couple of weeks ago - a native - said Don't Go Near Those Ones lol

I was given the remains of a box by some friends who visited Cuba. They were complete shite. I threw all but two away.

Interestingly, the cigar shop at Havana airport on the way back was half-filled with Guantanamera products.

How sad to bring home this cigar as a souvenir of Cuba.

My guitarist friend wanted the box back as it is decorated with a guitar.

Sorry, but for me these were the shittiest cigars of Cuban origin I have ever smoked!

cbob
09-11-2009, 01:21 PM
Aw they're not so bad. :tongue:

If you spend $85 to attend a Tropicana show in Havana, the men get a gift Guantanamera Cristales (and the ladies get a flower) which merely demonstrate that Cubans not actually in the cigar industry know DICK about cigars. :rolleyes:
Most of the "tourist oriented" cigars shops replaced much of their stocks of "real" Habanos with Guantanameras as did the "Duty Free" airport shops -where the prices are the same as in town. The tourists gobbled them up! That's what most folks want anyway: a souvenir "Cuban cigar" from their Island trip. If it's mild and cheap enough to throw away after a few puffs all the better. And Tabacuba gets to make money from all that Vuelta Ariba tobacco that no real cigar fan wants to smoke.

I felt it my duty to try them all and I wouldn't cross the road to buy any, in fact I wouldn't buy any if someone was handing them to me -as they do whenever I walk into a shop in Cuba.
But they are not so bad.
Perhaps an "entry level" Cuban smoke for a newbie.
Too mild for an experienced smoker but unmistakeably Cuban tobacco.
When I get one as a gift from Cuban friends who don't know any better but are being hospitable, I always say "muchas gracias" and enjoy the smoke in the spirit with which it was given.
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But... I'd never give one to a friend.
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Robusto
09-11-2009, 02:04 PM
But... I'd never give one to a friend.

Sums it up.

tippexx
09-11-2009, 02:08 PM
I bought one because of the glass tube ..... daft or what?

ChrisMClark
09-11-2009, 02:18 PM
Never tried one I'm afraid. Been put off by the majority of bad reviews. I believe they were discontinued in 2005? If they are still readily available, it doesn't bode well...

There's a new product, the Minuto, released this year, so it would appear they're still going. It's a shame to see these reall are as bad as the reviews say, the Cristal I had a year or so ago was actually quite nice...I might give it another go....

daverave999
09-11-2009, 02:21 PM
There's a new product, the Minuto, released this year, so it would appear they're still going.
Where did you hear that? I was going from this (http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand.aspx?brand=Guantanamera).

ChrisMClark
09-11-2009, 02:39 PM
Very curious...

I saw this (http://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/guantanamera-minutos-p-6879.html).

daverave999
09-11-2009, 03:09 PM
That is a bit odd!

whisky77
09-11-2009, 03:22 PM
Tried them once and ............never again.:(

PoohBore
09-11-2009, 06:33 PM
i might get one in the glass tube as a curio for my cabinet humi when its finished but thats about it.

trevor2118
09-11-2009, 07:32 PM
That is a bit odd!

Discontinued as far as Habanos is concerned.


A Discontinued Brand
Guantanamera was a post-revolution brand established 2002.
Comprised light strength cigars using short filler tobacco from the lesser Vuelta Arriba region.
It was a cheap cigar made for the mass-market. The cigars have pre-cut heads.
It was deleted from Habanos portfolio in circa 2005.
Currently made by "Internacional Cubana de Tabacos S.A." under licence to Habanos SA

SmokinHaggis
09-11-2009, 08:00 PM
Tried them in the early days and thought they were not too bad(of course compared to, lets just say a cigar named after a city in Brazil,:embarassed: but as i progressed through the brands there is no way i would smoke another. There are of course alot worse cigars out there!! A man has to gain experience somehow.

ChrisMClark
09-11-2009, 08:02 PM
I don't believe it is, apparently an American cigar company based in Florida (by the name of the Guantanamera Cigar Company) is currently in court proceedings with Habanos SA over a trademark issue. It's also strange that C.Gars ltd would say there was a new cigar out this year.

Trev, that appears to be the same wording from the link Dave posted, and I believe it's wrong.

daverave999
09-11-2009, 08:05 PM
Trev, that appears to be the same wording from the link Dave posted, and I believe it's wrong.
It's Trevor's website I took it from Chris. ;)
[EDIT] Trevor's site specifically refers to the Cuban Guantanamera. Sounds like there's another then!
[EDIT2] The cgars website does have it in the Cuban cigars section and it does mention Vuelta Arriba which is in Cuba. Hmmm.

ChrisMClark
09-11-2009, 08:10 PM
I'm just struggling to see why a vendor would say it's new for this year, from a company that apparently stopped in 2005 :confused: It's all very confusing :lol: Especially as there's still a lot of places selling them.

EDIT: The other Guantanamera is an American brand, and looks nothing like the Cubans.

Stevieboy
09-11-2009, 08:17 PM
I've tried one or two back in my early days but the were pretty crappy. I ended up with lots of bits of baccy in my gob. Avoid if you find them

skyhigh
09-11-2009, 09:12 PM
Please Chris can you refrain from swearing on the forum, we don't tolerate the use of that G word.

Got some off a work mate from Cyprus, tried 1 gave rest away to enemies(those who ain't got a clue). the empty box came in handy to use for the stick a stick in though.:rolleyes:

trevor2118
09-11-2009, 09:16 PM
Hi Chris,


.....from a company that apparently stopped in 2005.

As the website says, "It was deleted from Habanos portfolio in circa 2005."....that is, the brand was deleted....the company never "stopped".

The website also agrees it is still made...."Currently made by "Internacional Cubana de Tabacos S.A." under licence to Habanos SA"

A check of the Habanos SA website will show that Guantanamera is no longer listed as one of their brands. http://www.habanos.com/vitolario.aspx?lang=en

:smoke:

MoaningM
10-11-2009, 03:55 PM
Have been over the last couple of week sampling various singles, the Christales was supposedly on my agenda for this evening! Not quite sure now after reading ths one! :confused:

ChrisMClark
10-11-2009, 04:08 PM
Hi Chris,



As the website says, "It was deleted from Habanos portfolio in circa 2005."....that is, the brand was deleted....the company never "stopped".

The website also agrees it is still made...."Currently made by "Internacional Cubana de Tabacos S.A." under licence to Habanos SA"

A check of the Habanos SA website will show that Guantanamera is no longer listed as one of their brands. http://www.habanos.com/vitolario.aspx?lang=en

:smoke:

Mystery solved then :lol:

Either way, I don't think I'll be bothering. It's a bit naughty that some websites show the Guantanamera packaging with the Habanos band still on though.

daverave999
10-11-2009, 05:59 PM
They may still be left over from 2005 Chris. ;)

ChrisMClark
10-11-2009, 07:20 PM
They may still be left over from 2005 Chris. ;)

This is all very confusing...I'll stick to playing drums I think :lol: And just buy sigars that look nice :D

:smoke:

Fratton
10-11-2009, 08:00 PM
At the Tropicana in May got one of these. Ruined a fantastic night.

MoaningM
10-11-2009, 09:15 PM
i might get one in the glass tube as a curio for my cabinet humi when its finished but thats about it.

The one I have is'nt even glass, its a cheap plastic version.....

MoaningM
10-11-2009, 09:48 PM
Are they meant to be plastic or is it a case that I not only have a dodgy cigar but a fake one at that? I did get it from cgars.co.uk?

ChrisMClark
10-11-2009, 09:58 PM
The on eI had a while back was also in a plastic tube.

trevor2118
10-11-2009, 10:02 PM
The one I have is'nt even glass, its a cheap plastic version.....

The tubes are plastic....never been glass to my knowledge.

The Christales was the worst.....worst ever.....cigar I have ever had.

CakeySnakey
10-11-2009, 10:08 PM
I do not like Guantanameras at all. they're too mild to taste anything and are generally a bad smoke. very cheap though (you get what you pay for!)

MoaningM
11-11-2009, 12:09 AM
The tubes are plastic....never been glass to my knowledge.

The Christales was the worst.....worst ever.....cigar I have ever had.

cheers trevor dont feel 'quite' so bad now.....

ChrisMClark
11-11-2009, 08:39 AM
It would be weird to have a cheap stick in a relatively expensive glass tube though.

So glad I asked on here, I was about to throw 20 down the pan on a box of 5 Cristales. Might order one and leave it in the humi for about 5 years and see if it gets any better :lol:

MoaningM
11-11-2009, 09:24 AM
I took the plunge and tried mine last night, If i'm honest it found it was very very mild, and was certainly nothing like the partagas or charatan i had the other week, did'nt certainly have that peppery aftertaste.

Im not sure if it was the way i lighted it but it's burn was to put no finer point on it all to c0ck! ended up looking like a fountain pen rather than a cigar!

snooky
11-11-2009, 07:13 PM
Had some couldn't giv em away ! :mad: