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    Why is it that there are certain brands which simply aren't available in the US? UK Retailers all have the same pool of non-cuban brands, while US have much more, but not the ones in the uk, the one's im talking about:

    Charatan
    La Rica
    La Invicta
    Don Ramos
    Davila
    Don Ramos
    Don Tomas (The UK has a certain brand of Don Tomas)


    Anyone know the reasonings behind this? UK Liscences or something?
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  • #2
    Originally posted by misterbulgarin View Post
    Why is it that there are certain brands which simply aren't available in the US? UK Retailers all have the same pool of non-cuban brands, while US have much more, but not the ones in the uk, the one's im talking about:

    Charatan
    La Rica
    La Invicta
    Don Ramos
    Davila
    Don Ramos
    Don Tomas (The UK has a certain brand of Don Tomas)


    Anyone know the reasonings behind this? UK Liscences or something?
    I think it's just marketing .... plus a wee bit of 'passing-off' as those brand names are suspiciously close to some better known counterparts.
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    • #3
      Most of the cigars available in the US could, in theory, be imported into the UK (apart from where there are license issues). The problems are demand and price. The UK demand is for Havana's, although non-Cuban (New World) brands have a loyal following and show a real year on year growth. UK Duty on the weight of a cigar make price comparisons with the same cigar sold in the US and UK (for example Fuente) very uncomfortable!

      Many of the brands in the UK will be exclusive to (or created by) the particular importer - allowing lower price chains and no comparisons with other markets.

      I would like to see Gurkha cigars in the UK - but there does need to be some awareness and demand.
      I'm sure there are greater things in life than a fine cigar ........... but right now I can't think what they might be.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Robert Emery View Post
        Most of the cigars available in the US could, in theory, be imported into the UK (apart from where there are license issues). The problems are demand and price. The UK demand is for Havana's, although non-Cuban (New World) brands have a loyal following and show a real year on year growth. UK Duty on the weight of a cigar make price comparisons with the same cigar sold in the US and UK (for example Fuente) very uncomfortable!

        Many of the brands in the UK will be exclusive to (or created by) the particular importer - allowing lower price chains and no comparisons with other markets.

        I would like to see Gurkha cigars in the UK - but there does need to be some awareness and demand.
        I think you hit the nail on the head, Robert!

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        • #5
          I'm sure there would be problems if anyone tried to sell NC versions of the famous CC brands over here & I've never seen (or at least noticed) them available. I wonder if these are the "licence issues" that Robert was referring to?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by EugeneSax View Post
            I'm sure there would be problems if anyone tried to sell NC versions of the famous CC brands over here & I've never seen (or at least noticed) them available. I wonder if these are the "licence issues" that Robert was referring to?
            Yes - that is the point. While we all enjoy Havana cigars there are so many New World cigars out there that deserve to be discovered. About 40% of the hand made cigars I smoke each year are not from Cuba, Santa Damiana was always a big favourite of mine but today Oliva is right near the top - but there are so many.
            I'm sure there are greater things in life than a fine cigar ........... but right now I can't think what they might be.

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