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yiorgos
25-05-2010, 11:41 PM
A while ago I decided that I would do a head to head comparison of a 2003 Cohiba Siglo VI and a Cohiba Siglo VI Gran Reserva. After getting my hands on the two cigars, I let them sleep in the same humidor waiting for a day with plenty of time in my hands. That day came last Saturday... With the sun blazing and the thermometer showing late twenties, I took the two sticks out and hit the back garden...

Appearance and Construction
2003 Cohiba Siglo VI 14/15
Cohiba Siglo VI Gran Reserva 15/15
Both cigars look the par! I could not find anything that was not perfect on the Siglo VI Gran Reserva. The chocolate brown wrapper, the oily and smooth feel, the absence of any wrinkles or prominent veins, make this cigar a masterpiece. The 03 Siglo VI inevitably looses the first battle, not by far, mainly because of the wrapper quality. Both cigars are well constructed, with a firm bunch and a good prelight draw. The wrapper on the 03 Siglo VI has a sweet earthy taste and alight coffee aroma, while the Siglo VI Gran Reserva has a beautiful scent of wood and earth and a sweet flavour.


Draw & Burn
2003 Cohiba Siglo VI 24/25
Cohiba Siglo VI Gran Reserva 23/25
Surprisingly the 03 Siglo VI manages to pull this one off… The draw is flawless all the way through and the cigar does not go off at all. The ash is solid, dark grey in colour with a yellow hue and stays on the cigar until it reaches an inch in length. The burn is even all the way through and the combustion is complete, with the cigar delivering an ample amount of smoke with a think and creamy finish.
On the other hand, the Siglo VI Gran Reserva is not far from its older brother. It draws well, delivering slightly less volume of smoke than the 03 Siglo VI. The burn is a tad uneven, without causing any problems and it is only at the end that the cigar needs to be relit only once. The ash is solid and dark grey and the finish is long and sweet.


Flavour & Body
2003 Cohiba Siglo VI 22/25
Cohiba Siglo VI Gran Reserva 23/25
Interestingly, the two cigars are very very different. While the 03 Siglo VI is a typical Cohiba, spicy, earthy and strong, the Siglo VI Gran Reserva is super smooth and refind, lacking some strength; until the last third.
The 03 Siglo VI starts as you would expect from a premium Cohiba; medium to full body and strong flavours of earth and spicies, with a long and creamy finish. On the second third the cigar turns into full bodies and becomes more complex. Vanilla and wood are closely following the spicy and earthy dominant flavours in a well balanced outcome. Towards the end, the 03 Siglo VI is even stronger and more complex. Cedar and caramel are only some of the new flavours appearing on the last third, with earth and spicies still dominating. A delicious cigar for the smoker that prefers a strong and spicy cigar.
The Siglo VI Gran Reserva starts off completely different. Medium strength and body and very mellow and sweet flavours. Sweet honey dominates, with tobacco, wood and earth following and a long and sweet finish. On the second third, the body does not change. It remains medium but presents an unparalleled complexity. The flavours of the first third are still present, followed by nuts and liquorish. I could be going on for pages about the flavours that it reminded me of during the second third. On the last third, the cigar explodes and from medium body it turns into full. Sheer power that made me break a sweat. The flavours described earlier were amplified towards the end and the cigar became slightly hot.

Overall Impression
2003 Cohiba Siglo VI 32/35
Cohiba Siglo VI Gran Reserva 34/35
Although the two Siglo VI’s share the same name, they are two completely different cigars. The ‘03 is a very strong and flavourfull cigar from end to end, while the Gran Reserva is as mellow as a cigar can be. The explosion towards the end took me by surprise, as nothing was indicating that in the first and second third. If this strength was equally divided in the whole length of the cigar and if there was a little more spiciness, the Siglo VI Gran Reserva could easily move up close to 100 points.

TOTAL
2003 Cohiba Siglo VI 92/100
Cohiba Siglo VI Gran Reserva 95/100
The overall score reflects to my opinion of the winner. While the ‘03 Siglo VI is in my opinion the best from all the crops, the Siglo VI Gran Reserva is a level above. I haven’t smoked all the rest to be able to say that it is the best cuban cigar ever made, but I imagine it wouldn’t be too far away from it.

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TJCoro
26-05-2010, 12:13 AM
http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-happy-smileys-832.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Innocent-Smileys/)Great post, muchacho! :thumb:

I have to confess though, that I only skimmed it :redface:, but it looks like it has a lot of really good words! http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/thinking-023.GIF (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Scared-Smileys/)


And the :photo:pictures are fantastic! http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-happy-smileys-964.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Hello-Kitty-Smileys/)


:catsmoker:


:juggle: Hey el Perro! Did you get a gander at the lads cool blog?


:catsmoker: (Ahem!) Yes...yes I did. Fine piece of work, it is.:41:

tupacboy
26-05-2010, 12:43 AM
awesome job!!

cj121
26-05-2010, 06:01 AM
As ever Yiorgos, a quality review. Thank you for taking the time and making the effort:thumb:

nicwing
26-05-2010, 07:25 AM
What a great review, nice to have two cigars side by side and some fantastic photographs.

We'll take any more of these you care to do!!!

monkey66
26-05-2010, 08:14 AM
What a great review, many thanks. What age is the GR tobacco, sounds like a different blend?

HabanoSy
26-05-2010, 08:32 AM
Fantastic review Yiorgos...

Good job...

Give this man a medal...

Cheers, HabanoSy

tippexx
26-05-2010, 08:40 AM
Another great review Yiorgos ... unlike TJ I read it twice. Great pics too!

Paulie
26-05-2010, 09:21 AM
Very impressive review, like Nicwing I think the pictures are good.

I do notice that both have a slight "coning" in their ash. This can be a sign that they are being smoked too quickly and not burning uniformly. Could also be a sign that the center is more tightly packed than the outer leaves.

Interesting that they both have this issue.

r0lan6
26-05-2010, 09:53 AM
Now thats a review! Congratulations yiorgos on setting a high bar for cigar reviews. :cool: :first:

yiorgos
26-05-2010, 10:28 AM
What a great review, many thanks. What age is the GR tobacco, sounds like a different blend?

All the tobacco used in the Gran Reserva is from the 2003 crop. They would have made a new blend to justify the pricetag... but i did indeed find them very different!

yiorgos
26-05-2010, 10:35 AM
I do notice that both have a slight "coning" in their ash. This can be a sign that they are being smoked too quickly and not burning uniformly. Could also be a sign that the center is more tightly packed than the outer leaves.

Interesting that they both have this issue.

The pyramid shaped coal is -to my experience- a sign of good burn. I cant really explain the reason why it happens, but when the coal of a cigar is like that, I never have a problem with burn.
On the other hand, if the burn is flat, or tunneling it is a sign of bad burn and I always end up having to relight. Try to notice it when you smoke the next time, right after the ash falls off naturally, and see how the coal shape affects the burn of your cigar.

nicwing
26-05-2010, 10:42 AM
The pyramid shaped coal is -to my experience- a sign of good burn. I cant really explain the reason why it happens, but when the coal of a cigar is like that, I never have a problem with burn.
On the other hand, if the burn is flat, or tunneling it is a sign of bad burn and I always end up having to relight. Try to notice it when you smoke the next time, right after the ash falls off naturally, and see how the coal shape affects the burn of your cigar.

Whoo hoo, I feel a whole new technical 'burn thread' coming on here guys!!!

Lascaux
26-05-2010, 11:07 AM
I find with a normal cigar smoked at normal pace, the first 3rd very regularly cones, and then the cigar balances out to a flat burn for the last 2 thirds. If I'm smoking a cigar very slowly (which is often a sign of great enjoyment) then the cigar can burn very flat from the first third.

a cigar i smoke too fast will cone right down to the end. for that reason i don't always see coning as a good thing. but it isnt a bad thing too. its just a thing, one of many things!
thing:der:

but i definitely agree a cigar that cones inward where the filler is burning faster than the wrapper... generally happens with less enjoyable smokes

stephan
26-05-2010, 12:36 PM
Ligero burns slower so if it is, correctly, placed in the centre then the burn may have some coning.

TJCoro
26-05-2010, 01:03 PM
http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/thinking-023.GIF (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Scared-Smileys/)Soooo, coning is a GOOD THING!

I never noticed that....I'll add that to my list of good information from this forum :41:

Good discussion, muchachos! :thumb:


:catsmoker:


:juggle: Hey el Pero! I've noticed some of the :tinfoil3: lads keep a "cone" under their hats. :laugh:


:catsmoker: (Ahem!) That they do, virgin boy....that they do.

El Catador
26-05-2010, 02:53 PM
I find with a normal cigar smoked at normal pace, the first 3rd very regularly cones, and then the cigar balances out to a flat burn for the last 2 thirds. If I'm smoking a cigar very slowly (which is often a sign of great enjoyment) then the cigar can burn very flat from the first third.

My experience too.

Though I have noticed that environment plays a part in the process, particularly outdoors, when a change in humidity or the breeze often throws a 'spanner in the works'.

However, I digress.

Great job yiorgos, and on a subject close to my heart ('outed' Cohiba lover), I currently have an example of both of these sticks awaiting my pleasure in the humidor (at some suitably auspicious occasion), and have been wondering how they might compare.

With luck, I'll get a chance to 'road test' them myself shortly and I'll be interested to see how my experience measures up to your own.
Till then, keep up the good work!
(Clicks heels and salutes).

Deano
26-05-2010, 03:20 PM
Absolutely brilliant review of some great sticks.

Thanks for the effort, the pics were amazing!

peanutpete
26-05-2010, 07:54 PM
as always yiorgos another great review, don't wait so long before you do more

snooky
26-05-2010, 09:12 PM
Good review and for the money i will stick with the VI's the burn does indicate good construction.:rolleyes:

ACMCC
26-05-2010, 10:26 PM
Nice review as always Yiorgos, very interesting... :smoke:

Soulmanure
27-05-2010, 01:13 AM
Excellent review, and mighty jealous am I that you had the opportunity to make it!

kingcohiba
27-05-2010, 02:09 AM
very nice review.....always wondered how it would compare to the VI.

great info too about the cone and burning. now that i think about it i have to agree 100% with ya. never really thought much about the conditions present when i had a bad burn id just get pissed and reach for my torch!

jdawg
27-05-2010, 03:39 AM
Another great review, Yiorgos!

Big J
27-05-2010, 03:13 PM
Excellent review!
Great pics.

mackem keith
27-05-2010, 05:59 PM
great review and pics keep those reviews coming:rock: