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  • Cohiba Double Corona 2003 EL

    A brief study on the effects of time and age on a cigar.

    I thought I'd put away the smilies for a minute (only a minute mind), and post a review on the Cohiba 2003 DC EL for anyone with nothing better to do then read my meandering musings.

    Having just re-visited this cigar after a break of nearly two years, I thought I'd post up my observations on how the effects of time and age seem to have changed and altered this cigars taste and flavour. . for anyone interested (or suffering from insomnia).

    N.B. Some cigars were harmed in the making of this review. Sorry!

    The latest 'casualty' came from a box I bought from an LCDH in Berlin in early 2005 after trying (and enjoying) Cohiba's previous Maduro offering, the 2001 EL Piramides.

    Although the initial intention was to age them, I did what I always do and smoked one straight out of the box as a benchmark (I know, no patience). Still, it made for a most memorable and decadent evening - watching 'Cabaret' in a Berlin nightclub - pre-smoking ban (Story for another day).

    Back then, I found it packed a fair wallop. Not because it was overly strong (mostly medium), but more because its size (7⅝ Inches ? 49 Ring Guage) required you to spend at least an hour and a half getting to know it (Nearer two hours for a slow smoker).

    The one thing that struck me, aside from the fact that Cohiba clearly struggled producing attractive 'Maduro' wrappers back then (These, the 2001 Piramides and 2004 Sublimes were all a little 'rough' in comparison with the more recent 'Maduro 5' range), was the 'bold and brassy' nature of the flavours. Lots of bitter chocolate and coffee, leather and earth, and nearer the end, peppery spiciness.

    Since then, I've smoked maybe one or two a year, with the last one being almost two years ago.
    So, what about now, have the effects of time conspired to 'tame' the beast?

    Well, 'Yes' . . . in a nut-shell.

    It's not that I'm complaining though, I still enjoyed it just as much, but for very different reasons.
    Gone are the 'in-your-face' bitter chocolate and espresso flavours, replaced instead with a 'smooth', creamy (and sweeter) milk-chocolate element. The espresso now more of a cappuccino. The spice (when it finally started to materialise - in the final third), was warmer, more like the heat you get from cinnamon or ginger than peppercorn.
    One flavour new to the mix (perhaps previously drowned out), was a very pleasant 'Hazelnut' taste that remained through-out.
    The saltiness, which had always been there, now worked to compliment these more subtle flavours in a way that really helped to keep the interest (Without it, I think it might have been easy to get distracted).

    Once, I'd have considered this an 'after-dinner' smoke to be paired with a Cognac or Armagnac, but not now. This one I had after a light lunch and washed it down with a coffee or two - perfectly fine. I'd even recommend it to any novices looking to try out a DC sized cigar.

    The downside.
    Just because time has mellowed this stick doesn't mean its necessarily improved it.
    It was, and still is, a good cigar (but I suspect it won't go down in history as a great one). It doesn't have the 'grassy' or 'barnyard' flavours that consumers typically associate with Cohiba or Cubans, nor can I find any way to understand (or justify) the price these things are going for.

    My advice? Try one if you come across one, they're a fascinating smoke, but don't buy a box in order to do so (unless it's realistically priced).

    Right, where are those smilies?
    Originally posted by DRAGMASTER
    Every time I sleep with a girl I smoke a cigar while we do it. It's exciting and makes you feel strong, manly and empowered.

  • #2
    Corr cat, glad I had nothing better to do, it was very interesting and informative.
    Thanks.

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    • #3
      Mmm aged cohiba's :drool:

      Sent from my X10i using Tapatalk

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      • #4
        Oh fascinating.

        This has been a cursed cigar for me. I love the DC format and so hunt them down when I can. I went through the process of trying to obtain a box of these a couple of times but on each occasion I was left with concerns as to authenticity and stepped back, causing me frightful embarrassment and social awkwardness on one occasion, I still have guilt. The Cohiba Pyramid of 2001 I did not rate at all. The Cohiba Sublime I liked much more and I still have three but it was not earth shattering. The Cohiba DC, well I just do not know, I think I have smoked just one but do not really remember, which says a lot.

        I still have seventeen of the box of twenty five Montecristo 2001 LE double coronas as Jimmeh and I smoked on his birthday. This is a release that seems to have been forgotten. It was not hugely raved about at release but I liked (not loved) it none the less. I smoked one every couple of years and they did improve. Jimmeh said he really enjoyed the one he smoked earlier this year. Sadly for me they are now a little light. With another ten years maybe they will get some good vintage flavours but really just another slightly underwhelming LE DC.

        As I used to bang on about ad nauseam, I used to smoke a lot of Hoyo DC?s but these are now too light for me and very variable, I have not had a great one that was made after they ceased to be rolled in just one factory. They moved to being made in various factories (probably with variously sourced tobacco) and this happened around 2003, or was it 2001, I fail to remember now, I must research again. The Partagas Lusi is a probably the best DC when considering non-vintages cigars but the finest DC is a well aged Sir Winston, just yummy. Maybe there are some really rare DC?s out there that are amazing (wink, wink) but you are sick of me talking about that sort of thing.

        Again, just my two cents.
        "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love, they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock!"

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        • #5
          Hang on.....

          If it takes you an hour and a half to smoke a DC, you are smoking TOO FAST!!!!
          "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love, they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock!"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bigbarneyhotdog View Post
            Mmm aged cohiba's :drool:

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            Nice review Cat. Aged Cohibas like 3003 EL DC's are a bit out of my league I'm afraid. But great reviewing all the same!

            Now, about this nightclub in Berlin ????
            If you want to, you can.
            And, if you can, you must!

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            • #7
              Good review, Aged Cohibas.....ah one day, when I'm more wealthy, or more wise with my money.

              You weren't at Cabaret Chez Nous, were you???????

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Big_T_UK View Post
                I went through the process of trying to obtain a box of these a couple of times but on each occasion I was left with concerns as to authenticity and stepped back, causing me frightful embarrassment and social awkwardness on one occasion, I still have guilt.
                I know that feeling!
                Despite purchasing from a reputable source I was still paranoid enough to dissect one (with a scalpel no less) to check on the filler length, tobacco quality and construction, etc. Just to be sure.
                God, what a waste - but still, peace of mind and all that.

                One slight issue for me at the time was the construction of the bands.
                It was the first year after Cohiba had switched to the embossed 'Gold' yellow and black bands, and (typical of Cuban quality control), the cut along the top edge wasn't as 'perfect' as I'd seen on more recently produced Cohiba's (I'm only talking about a fraction of a fraction of a millimetre off), but I still look at those cigars (about four in total) with suspicion. I can't help it.
                It's not that I'm paranoid or nothing!

                S'cuse me while I just do a sweep for bugs!

                Originally posted by Big_T_UK View Post
                Hang on.....

                If it takes you an hour and a half to smoke a DC, you are smoking TOO FAST!!!!
                I know.
                I just didn't want to sound like a timid lightweight!
                I think the first one took me two and a quarter hours - but then I was distracted by dancing Frauleins in lingerie!

                I have pictures!
                But their for 'private' use only - Oh uh, I've said too much. . . . . again!
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                Last edited by El Catador; 04-10-2010, 08:45 PM. Reason: Added some box pics
                Originally posted by DRAGMASTER
                Every time I sleep with a girl I smoke a cigar while we do it. It's exciting and makes you feel strong, manly and empowered.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by davidruddell View Post
                  You weren't at Cabaret Chez Nous, were you???????
                  No, a place called Bar Jeder Vernunft.
                  It's a combination of theatre, bar and restaurant.
                  Still there today - worth a visit (though sadly now, it's smoking out-side!).

                  P.S. This is the place
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                  Originally posted by DRAGMASTER
                  Every time I sleep with a girl I smoke a cigar while we do it. It's exciting and makes you feel strong, manly and empowered.

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