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  • Puff Scotty
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    Tubes aren't airtight to any decent degree. I had an experience with 5 montes that I took as extras, tubed, on a holiday to Kefalonia, they never came out of my suitcase, about a week after returning when I went to put them back in the humidor they were badly mouldy which had obviously started at the foot end. I believe this was caused by temp variations in a semi-sealed tube.
    I would only ever use a tube now for short term transport...& I'll shy away from buying them.

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  • daverave999
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    I'll seal one up then as I've only had the RyJ Churchills less than a month. That way I'll have one open and one closed so I can possibly compare. Thanks for the thoughts.

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  • EugeneSax
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    I keep all my tubed sticks, not that I've had that many, sealed in their tubes cos I reckon that's the way they were made to be kept. I do think tubos taste a wee bit more concentrated than their boxed brothers which slight difference could disappear without shelter. Although I accept how they are kept might make little or no difference in the short term, I'm hoping my stock should age better in the longer term.

    I had always imagined that being in a tight, sealed, almost airless environment was defence against humidity spikes & mould growth - but seems that I might be wrong. I've certainly never seen mould on a tubed cigar, but then again I've rarely seen mould on any sticks, let alone those in my humi.

    The only tubes I've ever kept with caps off have been old ones that have spent significant time out of a humidor and that I've slowly & carefully revived by leaving the caps off for brief periods (now all safely sitting with their caps on until such time as they are to be sacrificed to Prometheus).

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  • daverave999
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    Originally posted by EugeneSax View Post
    Why pay the premium price & buy tubos only to remove the cap or stick itself?
    I've generally only got them because I've bought a three pack to sample and non-tubos weren't available. Out of three Mag46 one had gone mouldy in the tube so I'm inclined to at least check them before leaving them for any period of time.

    What's your take on it EugeneSax?

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  • shooting-glasses
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    i just like the tubes , may make a tube collage when i have enough for the wall in my office

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  • spirit_of_will
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    Originally posted by EugeneSax View Post
    A question or two:

    Why pay the premium price & buy tubos only to remove the cap or stick itself?

    Why do the producers bother to put them in tubes with caps on (and charge and achieve a premium price) if the cigars themselves are better stored out of tubes, or with caps off?

    When you buy tubos do you expect them to have been removed from the tubes & inspected or whatever on a regular basis whilst in storage, at the retailers or wherever?
    Once I've got the right sized tubes laying around as spares for transport, I don't think I would pay the premium...

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  • cohibaIV
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    I buy tubes to transport the cigars in when I am out and about

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  • EugeneSax
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    A question or two:

    Why pay the premium price & buy tubos only to remove the cap or stick itself?

    Why do the producers bother to put them in tubes with caps on (and charge and achieve a premium price) if the cigars themselves are better stored out of tubes, or with caps off?

    When you buy tubos do you expect them to have been removed from the tubes & inspected or whatever on a regular basis whilst in storage, at the retailers or wherever?

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  • cohibaIV
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    Originally posted by spirit_of_will View Post
    Thanks for all the detailed responses to my question of in or out of tubes - pleased to say that all my sticks are living naked in my humi... same goes for the ones that arrived in packets!
    Naked is good IMHO...

    My cigars alway go in naked and tubes are only used to transport them

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  • spirit_of_will
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    Thanks for all the detailed responses to my question of in or out of tubes - pleased to say that all my sticks are living naked in my humi... same goes for the ones that arrived in packets!

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  • monkey66
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    I have mentioned this several times, be aware that:

    airtight containers+humidifying device+temp variation=MOULD

    The solution, regular airflow (open at least once a week).

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  • El Catador
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    Originally posted by daverave999 View Post
    With the tubos, I open them and leave them to settle in my humi. Sometimes, I'll then put the lid back on once I'm sure they've equalised.
    In recent years, I've tended to do this more and more often with tubos.
    With the cap off, the only point of entry for air (and therefore moisture) is via the foot, and (in my experience) that results in an uneven distribution of moisture throughout the cigar.
    i.e. Unlike 'naked' cigars in the humi, the presence of a tube acts as a barrier to the even distribution of air-flow that happens naturally when the cigar is 'naked' in the humi.

    Two things invariably occur: a) Cigars have a tendency to burn unevenly (if smoked directly from the tubo) due to the stick not being 'balanced', and b) There seems to be a higher risk of foot damage (splitting) due to moisture ingress from that end only.

    I usually take the cigars out of the tubes when I get them, leave them 'naked' in the humi for a month or two (give them chance to re-acclimatise) and then store them for long-term aging 'caps on'.

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  • daverave999
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    With the tubos, I open them and leave them to settle in my humi. Sometimes, I'll then put the lid back on once I'm sure they've equalised.

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  • tippexx
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    Originally posted by spirit_of_will View Post
    ... to keep them in the packets or best to pop them loose into the humi or spare cigar box in a tupperdor.
    If you can, keep them in the humi. I was storing in the packs because it looked tidy and I like the designs .... but, where I've space I'm transferring them into humis.


    Originally posted by spirit_of_will View Post
    .... do you store them in the tube or take them out to go in the humi? So far I've taken them out as the tubes are using up space.
    I always keep mine in the humi 'caps off'. Some cigars really benefit from being Tubos. Bolivar RC for example.

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  • spirit_of_will
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    ...must have read my mind! Small delivery arrived this morning and I was going to ask the question if it's safe to keep them in the packets or best to pop them loose into the humi or spare cigar box in a tupperdor.

    On a similar thought... tubos... what's the general concensus, do you store them in the tube or take them out to go in the humi? So far I've taken them out as the tubes are using up space.

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