Juan Lopez Howitzer & Bolivar Simones

[Stevieboy]

My Siglo IV's from 01 and Boli CG's from 02 are great

Cool

[Ramon]

My Siglo IV's from 01 and Boli CG's from 02 are great

[TJCoro]

You tellin' me?

I concur Larry!! I've found that the QC of most brands between 2000 - 2004 have been fairly poor compared to 2006 onwards. I'd have a Monte 2 from 2008 over a so-called aged one from 2001 any day
I kept buying vintage boxes and being very disillusioned to the point that I nearly packed the whole thing in.....then a box of Upmann #2 from 2007 changed my mind and I haven't looked back

Spot on, senor Stevielad, with the exception of your time frame. I have found that the quality of Habana puros began improving in mid 2002 and have continued to improve significantly since then.

I happen to have a few Bolivar Royal Coronas left from a 2002 box. I almost returned them because the wrappers have a greenish tint rather than the reddish-brown they are famous for.

Reason for not returning them - they taste wonderful and have improved quite a bit over time. In fact, they are superior to boxes I have bought since.

Names TJ, TJCoro, and I love aged puros.

[Stevieboy]

Not speaking from experience, but supposedly the BBF had gotten away from its original consistency during the cigar boom and it has gotten better since then. Just in case the last time you tried one was form that era TJ, that's more reason to try it again. Hissssssssss.

I concur Larry!! I've found that the QC of most brands between 2000 - 2004 have been fairly poor compared to 2006 onwards. I'd have a Monte 2 from 2008 over a so-called aged one from 2001 any day
I kept buying vintage boxes and being very disillusioned to the point that I nearly packed the whole thing in.....then a box of Upmann #2 from 2007 changed my mind and I haven't looked back

[larrysputnik]

Not speaking from experience, but supposedly the BBF had gotten away from its original consistency during the cigar boom and it has gotten better since then. Just in case the last time you tried one was form that era TJ, that's more reason to try it again. Hissssssssss.

[TJCoro]

Sound Advice, StevieBoy!

TJ - it's a crime not to LOVE the BBF It's a classy cigar. Might be time to re-visit them amigo.
There's been a few cigars that I was initially indifferent towards for whatever reason but have loved when I re-tried them...the most obvious one that springs to mind is the Trinidad Reyes

Once again, Senor Stevieboy, you speak the truth in your usual most gracious, diplomatic manner...unlike Larryboy who sometimes speaks with forked tongue. But I digress.

Yes, I too have experienced puros that initially did not impress but, given time, grew into a fabulous smokes. And I have read many good thing about the BBF, but never shared in that experience.

So perhaps I was a little to quick to 'dis' the BFF (although the ones I smoked were from a box dated Oct 2004, two of which are resting comfortably in my Back of the Rack aging collection.)

So, based on your advice, and yours alone, I will give the BBF a second go sometime and report my findings here, on this most fabulous forum.

Names TJ, TJCoro, and senor Stevielad often has to play ying to my yang.

[Stevieboy]

I would steer clear of the Belicosos Finos, however....not a big fan.

TJ - it's a crime not to LOVE the BBF It's a classy cigar. Might be time to re-visit them amigo.
There's been a few cigars that I was initially indifferent towards for whatever reason but have loved when I re-tried them...the most obvious one that springs to mind is the Trinidad Reyes

[TJCoro]

Earth to Larry...

Are you a Bolivar fan? I've only ever had two but I loved them. Not many talk about Bolivars so far on this forum. A couple of posts by cohibaIV and Robusto, but that's about it. Please post some reviews after you spark them up.

Gee Wiz, senor Larry. You can read all about the Bolivar Royal Corona in CA magazine - it was only CA's Cigar of the Year in 2006.

I would steer clear of the Belicosos Finos, however....not a big fan.

Names TJ, TJCoro, and I praise the pleasures of the Bolivar puros all the time on this forum

[Ramon]

I Love Boli's, the BBF is one of my favourites, along with the Coronas Gigantes, preferably from a cab, and aged. Also the RC, a great robusto, not forgetting the Inmensas and the Lonsdales.

[larrysputnik]

Are you a Bolivar fan? I've only ever had two but I loved them. Not many talk about Bolivars so far on this forum. A couple of posts by cohibaIV and Robusto, but that's about it. Please post some reviews after you spark them up.

[bigjohn62]

juan lopezhowitzer bolivar simones

i have been trying to get my hands on some of those j.l #2 i have heard nothing but good things about them.

[TJCoro]

Shit Dale!!! Don't tempt me FFS!!! PM me with details...no don't...yes,do...no...AARRGGGHHH!!!!

Easy young Stevielad, easy.

Bring your fine lady CIGA to the walk and maybe, just maybe senor IV, my new BBF, will let you have a sniff.

Names TJ, TJCoro, and I drive a hard bargin

[Stevieboy]

TJ

How does this sound to you??
BOLIVAR LEGENDARIOS EDICION REGIONAL, The new release from Bolivar, available only for the Swiss market and in very limited quantities. This is a Dobles size cigar (same as the Trinidad Robusto Extra). A bit young but very promising.

Hmmmm...You want??

Shit Dale!!! Don't tempt me FFS!!! PM me with details...no don't...yes,do...no...AARRGGGHHH!!!!

[cohibaIV]

Hee! Hee! Didn't think you'd notice, being from the UK and all.

Okay, I'll crank it up a notch or two.

Names TJ, TJCoro, and Mr. IV can't be fooled again!

[TJCoro]

Caught!

Hmmm, tryin to palm me off with some cheap Puros matey???

Looks like Chrismas has come early for you my SOM mate... See ya on the walk TJ..

Hee! Hee! Didn't think you'd notice, being from the UK and all.

Okay, I'll crank it up a notch or two.

Names TJ, TJCoro, and Mr. IV can't be fooled again!