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  • Stevieboy
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    Originally posted by Puff Scotty View Post
    now, let me tell you, the downside of an intrin........

    Nite Nite.
    Oh, bugger off

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  • Puff Scotty
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    There's nothing as whimsical as nature... I'll stick to cigars, at least one a day keeps the doctor away!

    Doing research on tobacco ageing can take you to some weird places...now, let me tell you, the downside of an intrin........

    Nite Nite.

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  • Stevieboy
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    Originally posted by Puff Scotty View Post
    The natural phenols (flavanoids) are topoisomerase inhibitors so therefore found during maturation & ageing..
    Ahh right, didn't know that

    Here's a weird one: TIs are administered to treat lung tumours caused by baccy... that has the TI in it naturally to begin with....weird cycle of events eh?

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  • Puff Scotty
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    Originally posted by Stevieboy View Post
    So what have they got to do with cigars?
    The natural phenols (flavanoids) are topoisomerase inhibitors so therefore found during maturation & ageing.

    Engineering mate, science. physics, pharmy.....yeah that one! it's all engineering mucker...

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  • Stevieboy
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    Originally posted by Smallclub View Post
    My remark wasn't directed to you? and I don't have a degree in any applied science, then these things are complicated to me, but I try to understand?
    Lol fair enough Frank...I thought you were having a wee go!! Tbh, I've forgotten a load of the chemistry I learned way back then....it would most likely befuddle me anyway

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  • Smallclub
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    Originally posted by Stevieboy View Post
    I've a pharmacy degree so it's definitely not too complicated so please start us off....
    My remark wasn't directed to you… and I don't have a degree in any applied science, then these things are complicated to me, but I try to understand…

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  • Stevieboy
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    Originally posted by Puff Scotty View Post
    Cigars are really good for you until HMG says otherwise.
    Amen to that amigo

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  • Stevieboy
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    Originally posted by Smallclub View Post
    If you think the mention of "degradation of tanins" is too complicated or uninteresting, forget any conversation about ageing?
    I've a pharmacy degree so it's definitely not too complicated so please start us off....

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  • Puff Scotty
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    Cigars are really good for you until HMG says otherwise.
    In phytochemical studies over 2500 different compounds have been found in tobacco & yes flavanoids are amongst them. Some flavanoids are bad for you but don't ask me which ones.....

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  • Smallclub
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    I don't think flavonoids are present in tobacco, and if you think the mention of "degradation of tanins" is too complicated or uninteresting, forget any conversation about ageing…

    The original poster asked "what physically happens to a cigar as it ages"; maturation/fermentation is a chemical process, like it or not.

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  • Stevieboy
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    Originally posted by Puff Scotty View Post
    I believe they have been used for DNA re-structuring but I have no knowledge of that.
    So what have they got to do with cigars?

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  • Stevieboy
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    I know flavonoids are in some teas but I didn't know they were in cigars?! Flavonoids are good for you so.....cigars are good for you??

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  • Puff Scotty
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    Originally posted by Stevieboy View Post
    Huh? They're chemotherapy agents aren't they?
    I believe they have been used for DNA re-structuring but I have no knowledge of that.

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  • Puff Scotty
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    Originally posted by Stevieboy View Post
    What is the impact of these chemicals?
    Bitterness.

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  • Stevieboy
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    Originally posted by Puff Scotty View Post
    Topoisomerase inhibitors type I & II which............
    Huh? They're chemotherapy agents aren't they?

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