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  • butternutsquashpie
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    Originally posted by tommy View Post
    Most addicts have fuck all money and possessions and would certainly not collect rare batches of heroin or crack to look at and talk to their pals about! Cigar smoking is an oddity because it is an addictive weed that is smoked in a controlled way. I equate it to booze, I drink regularly but it's likely to be a single glass of rather good wine, brandy or recently whisky. The guy with the drinking problem favours special brew or frosty jack for its alcohol to cash ratio.
    This^^

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  • tommy
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    Cigar smoking has the potential to lead to addiction but by nature is less likely than other tobacco products to lead to addiction. Most addiction is a means led problem So I would argue that addiction to tobacco would for most end with fags and roll ups even if it starts with cigars. There are drug addicts that have large stashes of drugs, that's what most dealers are, addicts who feed the habit by selling gear. Most addicts have fuck all money and possessions and would certainly not collect rare batches of heroin or crack to look at and talk to their pals about! Cigar smoking is an oddity because it is an addictive weed that is smoked in a controlled way. I equate it to booze, I drink regularly but it's likely to be a single glass of rather good wine, brandy or recently whisky. The guy with the drinking problem favours special brew or frosty jack for its alcohol to cash ratio.

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  • butternutsquashpie
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    Originally posted by TonyN View Post
    Drug addicts are addicted to drugs which means they have to buy as and when
    Addicted to gambling you have to go and gamble as and when
    Addicted to cigars we buy as and when if it wasen't an addiction why do we have x amount in our humidor or cabinets and cooladors etc.
    Not trying to upset anyone just the way i see it myself.
    Never upsetting Tony. Don't let plaintext deceive you into negative connotations!!

    Drug addicts don't have stashes of drugs. They do them religiously. Gambling addicts don't have stashes of cash and do it religiously.
    We have a stash of cigars and do not smoke religiously. I am talking about the majority of us - not those odd ones who smoke one or three cigars a day.

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  • TonyN
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    Originally posted by butternutsquashpie View Post
    an addiction has to be characterisable... it's [in many ways] a handicap of sorts on the body or mind (wallet doesn't count! )

    due to an uncharacterisable nature, one cannot say it's an addiction. Surely allusions can be drawn to standard addictions to drugs but it's eventually too different to matter.
    Drug addicts are addicted to drugs which means they have to buy as and when
    Addicted to gambling you have to go and gamble as and when
    Addicted to cigars we buy as and when if it wasen't an addiction why do we have x amount in our humidor or cabinets and cooladors etc.
    Not trying to upset anyone just the way i see it myself.

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  • big bopper
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    Originally posted by TonyN View Post
    Seems to be a lot of quiet members tonight on my question.
    Having been a thoroughly addicted cigarette smoker, I have a frame of reference and can definitely say it's more obsession than addiction. I enjoy cigars far more than I ever did cigarettes but experience no cravings for them.

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  • cigarmo
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    Originally posted by butternutsquashpie View Post
    ever heard of a humidor, mo?
    no what is one of those, do tell

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  • butternutsquashpie
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    Originally posted by cigarmo View Post
    Just some empties to play cigar box jenga with I buy singles to 25 boxes not got a 50 cab yet.
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    ever heard of a humidor, mo?

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  • cigarmo
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    Just some empties to play cigar box jenga with I buy singles to 25 boxes not got a 50 cab yet.
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  • tommy
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    Originally posted by Budgie Smuggler View Post
    I wouldn't really class myself as either; I can go a week or more without smoking (just as well as I have to smoke outside so weather dependant) and I'm not constantly thinking about smoking or buying cigars.

    I'd say I just have an interest in smoking, collecting and learning about cigars but that's it.

    My interest in collecting cigars is (for now) limited to developing enough of a stock that if anything happens financially I still have something to enjoy or, worst case scenario, sell.

    I'm hoping this never happens and I simply reach retirement age with a very healthy, diverse stock of well aged Cuban cigars to enjoy.
    I'd have to agree here, I work outside and could smoke every day if I wished to without fear of getting a bollocking from Mrs Tommy. I very rarely smoke in the evenings and weekend are rare too as it just doesn't fit into my lifestyle in the main. As a consequence I smoke the odd one at work, maybe one a week tops.
    The main reason I smoke one at work is that I don't sit outside on my own while the wife is in the house. When our next baby is born I won't be smoking evenings unless I have specifically agreed it with Silvia, the baby may wake any time and need attention and I can't pick him up if I've been smoking.
    That's the background story, the point of it is that I could smoke four a day at work if I wanted too but I don't, for that reason I'm not addicted to smoking them. I had a mad buying spree when I first joined this forum but I've all but stopped now unless Martyn tempts me with something [emoji16]. I think that shows that addiction and obsession don't fit me. I love smoking a cigar and sipping a drink, I have serious form for obsessive, compulsive and addictive behaviour but seem to be managing to deal with this cigar business ok. My biggest problem now is that my stash is rather untidy, part of me wants to stick to a 2hour and a 1 hour smoke and just age a rotating stock of those two cigars. If I did that I'd have the Siglo IV as the long smoke, not sure the short smoke. I'd keep some special stix in a 50 count too but limit it to that. Well that's how I see it going for me.

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  • wayne_w
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    An obsession for me too
    I buy singles & boxes of 10's & 25.
    It also serves as a recollection. Thinking back when we've been to Cuba, I really really enjoy going to Cuba!!
    Each time I smoke a cigar, it takes me back to sitting on the balcony at night, enjoying a rum & coke, watching the electrical storms out at sea, a memory that will stay with me for evermore & one that i hope to continue to repeat soon

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  • Budgie Smuggler
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    I wouldn't really class myself as either; I can go a week or more without smoking (just as well as I have to smoke outside so weather dependant) and I'm not constantly thinking about smoking or buying cigars.

    I'd say I just have an interest in smoking, collecting and learning about cigars but that's it.

    My interest in collecting cigars is (for now) limited to developing enough of a stock that if anything happens financially I still have something to enjoy or, worst case scenario, sell.

    I'm hoping this never happens and I simply reach retirement age with a very healthy, diverse stock of well aged Cuban cigars to enjoy.

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  • PeeJay
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    Definitely an obsession for me

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  • TonyN
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    Seems to be a lot of quiet members tonight on my question.

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  • butternutsquashpie
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    Originally posted by TonyN View Post
    and addicted because we have to buy
    an addiction has to be characterisable... it's [in many ways] a handicap of sorts on the body or mind (wallet doesn't count! )

    due to an uncharacterisable nature, one cannot say it's an addiction. Surely allusions can be drawn to standard addictions to drugs but it's eventually too different to matter.

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  • TonyN
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    I personaly think it's both others might disagree with me we are obsessed by reading writing etc about cigars
    and addicted because we have to buy again just my opinion on this .

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