St George's

[PeeJay]

@PeeJay do you do helicopters too?

No, not enough room and don't hold the same interest. My grandfather was a tank driver in the war.

[BushidoJP]

Ah lads if you want trouble about flags or flegs in Belfast. Come over for a visit in July!!

[ValeTudoGuy]

[MENTION=13402615]PeeJay[/MENTION] do you do helicopters too?

[ValeTudoGuy]

Sounds good in theory VTG but you've forgotten the Earths curvature. For it to work you would need an absolutely flat prairie in front of you, and you would have to be at a minimum of 8m elevation above the prairie. In tank warfare visual range of 6000m is good, but unfortunately well within the conventional AP range of the Rhinemetal gun, and if that wasn't bad enough, that smooth bore gun has a little trick, it can fire radar guided rocket ammunition with a kill distance of 8700m. And it's not a good idea to be pointing front in this confrontation, Iraqi infantry found a weak spot, your front under armour can be penetrated by an RPG.

Longest recorded Tank on tank Kill with a smooth bore is an Abrams and they were considered effective to around 4000m.


The Abrams uses a licensed copy of the Rhinemetal from the Leopard, I'm not saying it isn't feasible but as far as I can tell it's never been confirmed in active warfare where the 5100m kill of the Challenger that PJ alluded to has... I will take a 1000m further kill confirmation and better fuel efficiency.... Seriously, the challenger may be slower in a straight line but it will keep chugging when the others give out for lack of fuel. It's also arguably the best at manoeuvring in the rough.


All good tanks though.... As is the South Korean K2.

[tippexx]

No good if your taken out 1000m before your in range.

Sounds good in theory VTG but you've forgotten the Earths curvature. For it to work you would need an absolutely flat prairie in front of you, and you would have to be at a minimum of 8m elevation above the prairie. In tank warfare visual range of 6000m is good, but unfortunately well within the conventional AP range of the Rhinemetal gun, and if that wasn't bad enough, that smooth bore gun has a little trick, it can fire radar guided rocket ammunition with a kill distance of 8700m. And it's not a good idea to be pointing front in this confrontation, Iraqi infantry found a weak spot, your front under armour can be penetrated by an RPG.

[PeeJay]

Tiger II was a game changer for sure, but when almost every car factory in USA was pumping out hundreds of cheap Sherman's it's hard not to be outnumbered.

Which is why they had to take them from the rear (ooh missus!) as demonstrated in both 'Fury' and 'Kelly's Heroes'. The Russians were well on the way to tackling that problem with the IS series though.

[PeeJay]

No good if your taken out 1000m before your in range.

Indeed, the longest confirmed tank kill is by a Challenger at over 5,100 metres

[ValeTudoGuy]

You should see my WW2 German shelf! It outnumbers everyone. A German tank ace during the latter stages of the war said 'Three of our tanks are worth ten Shermans but the damned Americans always have eleven'

Tiger II was a game changer for sure, but when almost every car factory in USA was pumping out hundreds of cheap Sherman's it's hard not to be outnumbered.

[ValeTudoGuy]

Possibly because all the others consider rate of fire and impact velocity to be more important.

No good if your taken out 1000m before your in range.

[PeeJay]

Hahaha... nice... so it's 3 against one... (... all over again)

You should see my WW2 German shelf! It outnumbers everyone. A German tank ace during the latter stages of the war said 'Three of our tanks are worth ten Shermans but the damned Americans always have eleven'

[Niela]

And so Niela can feel proud too, probably the finest battle tank in the world today

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Hahaha... nice... so it's 3 against one... (... all over again)

[tippexx]

Possibly because all the others consider rate of fire and impact velocity to be more important.

[ValeTudoGuy]

And so Niela can feel proud too, probably the finest battle tank in the world today

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Not if a Challenger 2 blows it up before its in range.... Why on earth the British are the only people who realise that a rifled barrel increases range and accuracy is baffling.

[Scott]

Now, I'm willing to bet, that if the Queen were to turn up at our silly jockies radio station or any of the holier-than-thou Town Halls looking to give out a St. Georges Medal, the hypocrites would be queuing up ready to lick a corgi's arse and they'd be red crosses flying everywhere. Wankers! [emoji2]

That's great!

[Wigan]

When I get speaking to the few natives that are left up here and I tell them my dad was born in Scotland they say what nationality does that make you? I am same as you I say, British, whether you like it or not.
I have just woke up and that story bout the radio presenter has got me so pissed off. You are so right [MENTION=13409572]oskihen[/MENTION] !!!!