Siglo IV ? 5 x 54 robusto

[celsis]

I could be wrong but I for 1 believe that The big names from the U S already have their paper work approved by land holders in Cuba. All the other mega corps do so whyy would we think the cigar corps don't. I've been called crazy before but,
I don't think Im nuts on this 1.

Jeez, I hope not. Better stock up within the next few years or we could be on the downward spiral.....

[G-man]

I could be wrong but I for 1 believe that The big names from the U S already have their paper work approved by land holders in Cuba. All the other mega corps do so whyy would we think the cigar corps don't. I've been called crazy before but,
I don't think Im nuts on this 1.

[celsis]

Amen to that Mr.B

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At the end of the day it is opinion. I was just looking up some reviews for some non-cubans I had awhile back 90% of the people said they were shit, but I loved em and cant wait to get them again.
Thats what makes us all differant. But we are all BOTL and we respect each others Opinion

Exactly! I think I stated on another mail that I was pleasantly surprised by Rocky's Vintage 1990 Robustos and the La Gloria Wavell when I was in California recently.

I don't dislike all US cigars, I just think that the 'big' names are on a mission that wouldn't be tolerated by the courts if the country in question wasn't Cuba.

As you say, just my opinion.....

[G-man]

Amen to that Mr.B

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At the end of the day it is opinion. I was just looking up some reviews for some non-cubans I had awhile back 90% of the people said they were shit, but I loved em and cant wait to get them again.
Thats what makes us all differant. But we are all BOTL and we respect each others Opinion

[reigndrop]

I don't want to castigate our American cousins, but I've always felt that these American market "Cohibas" and "RyJs" etc. are nothing better than fakes! These ciagr companys have taken advantage of the embargo to market an inferior product and because of the embargo, most Americans don't know any different.

This is why I worry about the easing of the embargo. I'm almost positive that companys like General Cigar will try and buy up most of the Cuban fields and we'll end up smoking inferior cigars so that the companys can make bigger profits.

The curse of the American multinational......

As an American, I'd have to agree. Too many implications if this embargo does get taken down, and to add:

1. Demand will skyrocket, expect prices to go up at least 2x
2. Quality will diminish

I'd rather they be illegal so I can purchase them from places like CoH for the cheap and avoid paying dumb sin taxes.

[misterbulgarin]

At the end of the day it is opinion. I was just looking up some reviews for some non-cubans I had awhile back 90% of the people said they were shit, but I loved em and cant wait to get them again.

[G-man]

But some American market smokes are Better

I don't want to castigate our American cousins, but I've always felt that these American market "Cohibas" and "RyJs" etc. are nothing better than fakes! These ciagr companys have taken advantage of the embargo to market an inferior product and because of the embargo, most Americans don't know any different.

This is why I worry about the easing of the embargo. I'm almost positive that companys like General Cigar will try and buy up most of the Cuban fields and we'll end up smoking inferior cigars so that the companys can make bigger profits.

The curse of the American multinational......

It is all on what U are use to smokin. Some NC cigars have better complexity then CC. Some CC are way overpriced IMHO. And all said is just IMHO.

[Simon-JG-hr]

I doubt that a change in the embargo status would allow foreign companies to by Cuban fields/land. That's about as non-Communist as it gets.

[celsis]

I don't want to castigate our American cousins, but I've always felt that these American market "Cohibas" and "RyJs" etc. are nothing better than fakes! These ciagr companys have taken advantage of the embargo to market an inferior product and because of the embargo, most Americans don't know any different.

This is why I worry about the easing of the embargo. I'm almost positive that companys like General Cigar will try and buy up most of the Cuban fields and we'll end up smoking inferior cigars so that the companys can make bigger profits.

The curse of the American multinational......

[moidoid]

These cigars really pull me in, I want one....

I think it's important to have 'average' smokes in your stocks. As silly as that may sound, when it's a rainy shitty day, do you really want to be lighting that fine cuban? But I only have CC's! Get some average NC's for those average days!

I know that you are aware of the quality of some cheaper Cubans MisterB, but if you look around there are some amazing box deals to be had which can mean that some top-rank CC's are available for the equivalent of the Siglo price here. e.g. RASS, SLR Serie A & Upmann Mag 46 are all great and get reduced at times to very low prices.

[misterbulgarin]

Definatley, I do exactly the same, trouble is with the summer were having I havent had a decent smoke in weeks!

And the thing with cigars, even a 'widely known' average cigar can still turn out to be great. I just had a real nice non-cuban robusto after a roast dinner and it turned out to be pretty damn good. usual review will be up shortly

[Boss Hog]

These cigars really pull me in, I want one....

I think it's important to have 'average' smokes in your stocks. As silly as that may sound, when it's a rainy shitty day, do you really want to be lighting that fine cuban? But I only have CC's! Get some average NC's for those average days!

Definatley, I do exactly the same, trouble is with the summer were having I havent had a decent smoke in weeks!

[misterbulgarin]

These cigars really pull me in, I want one....

I think it's important to have 'average' smokes in your stocks. As silly as that may sound, when it's a rainy shitty day, do you really want to be lighting that fine cuban? But I only have CC's! Get some average NC's for those average days!

[Big Al]

Thanks for that review gss. Boring cigar eh? Sounds ok to me! I like boring cigars if they taste well and draw easy. Those two aspects are the key things for me. The finest Havana is useless bin material if it draws like a log and the easiest draw in the world is worthless if it tastes like a turd.

[reigndrop]

Actually the lable is really well made but the cigar is average at best.Very disappointed !

My local B&M had these for $17.50 a pop!! Better off buying the actual thing. (Still shopping around for CC's )