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  • Ever had an Ideal Ramon Allones?

    Ideales du Ramon, discontinued in the 70's, brought at auction at Christies in 2004 by a member on this site & swapped 18/12 ago with me for a Siglo VI & a couple of other stix. This true BOTL just couldn't find a suitable occasion to smoke it & was happy to pass it on. I picked it up in London, took it to Antwerp & then to Scotland expecting to smoke it there but it didn't happen so back here for a yr or so until I plucked it from the recesses of my cave this evening to celibrate my best ever pike season, which ended today.

    The stick it has to say was pretty rough looking. Not what smokey Mo would call in an ideal condition but I suspect a box of perfectly conditioned stix would be 1,00pounds range+ (any idea Mitch?).
    It is a 36 x 6 3/8" parjero format, a fancy panatella if you like. I didn't have a band, according to MRN, it proably had a green & white label but perhaps not.

    My cave is currently at 64o Humidity & it was slightly soft to touch, which was matched by the easy draw. The tapered tip light easily & the RA flav came through amost immeadiately. From 90-30% of the lenght this was perfect 100 point vintage cigar. I cannot claim to have smoked many 70's or earlier stix but almost without exception the thing that never ceases to amaze me, is the amount & the strenght of flavour these stix still have.

    I am of the school that cigars do not get stronger with age, other nuances may disapear so leaving more of the tobacco profile more clearly but generally the strenght must lessen, becoming more refined. On this theory, these must have been awsome stix in there day, far stonger than current RA's or another current Cuban brands. The flavour was strong & steady until the last third.

    I had to give a couple of relights around the last third. This was probably ue to me smoking as slowly as possible to try & draw the enjoyment out but as I was smoking outside in a breeze, probably not a good idea. It also dropped in the perfect flavour again, remlighting never helps maintian the same flav.
    I would have given this a 99points but due to the end, I'll call it 97. This matches a 70's Monty No5, & I have no higher scores, so far. I don't suppose there are many of these left & I am just as sure I couldn't afford to by a box at auction, which is why I value this site so highly because if you make the effort to establish relationships with members (usually through PM's & swaps ect) some gifts may come your way that as an avge Joe, you would never normally get to try. If you ever wondered why rich old gits pay thousands for vintage & pre-embargo cigars, it's because they know what they are buying, they are generally worth it & they can afford it.
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    Simon Bolivar: Liberator of Bolivia, Ecuador, Peru & Venezuela.

  • #2
    I had one of those once - didn't smoke it but for some reason, traded it!

    Glad it was a good smoke. BTW - was pre embargo, or was sold as such (and I'm sure it did have a band when I traded it)

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    • #3
      Great review Si. I try to chase old Havanas, however price is a barrier.
      Theres nothing like a well cared for vintage smoke.
      I don't care for modern day boils, too strong for me, but one with at least 10 years is amazing. Not the same as a true vintage but 2nd best.
      Lover of fine Cubans since 2006

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      • #4
        Wow great review,thank you.I can't even begin to imagine getting to smoke a cigar of that age,or what to expect from the flavours etc love the photos too.
        "The most futile and disastrous day seems well spent when it is reviewed through the blue, fragrant smoke of a Havana cigar."

        Evelyn Waugh

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        • #5
          Cheers for the comments guys. Thanks for yours Paul, I did have a RA label on it but it was a modern one so I thought I probably put it on to remind me what it was. Certainly can't remember a green & white band. Anyway, if it was pre-embargo then the fact so much flavour remained, is even more remarkable but Christies eh? Tell you anything to shift a box Thanks again Paul, it's apleasure doing business with you. We must get together again some time, I'll try & PM you when I am next free in the Smoke.
          Simon Bolivar: Liberator of Bolivia, Ecuador, Peru & Venezuela.

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