Hello, i'm a newbie that loves to enjoy Cohiba cigars, but has anyone tried these ?

[ValeTudoGuy]

Interesting you should compare it to a Cuban cigar, I will try and explain my thoughts In a comparison to the alcohol industry.

1:Scotch Whiskey - Cuban Cigars
Both are heavily regulated by specific organisations within government statute, they both contain things that are bad for us but as its regulated we can make an educated decision on our use of the product safe in the knowledge that they are what they say they are.

2:Generic Spirits - Generic Fags
E.g Captain Morgan Rum and Lambert and Butler Fags
Both Regulated by wider government rulings.
Potentially of lower quality than the above class but still regulated enough to know what your consuming.

3:Under the counter corner shop special Vodka

Not regulated, you don't have a clue what's in it... Possibly stuff like Methanol, Isopropyl, Chloroform.

Unfortunately at the moment e-cigs can fall anywhere between 2 and 3, but without even the regulation of 2 in the best of e-cigs.

My last thought on the matter is that if your a sales Guy for a company that proffits from putting chemicals in a person's body... To reply with "I'm just the sales guy" and follow up with a caption from Wikipedia of all places is extremely poor showing. I hope the R&D guys at your company take a bit more pride and care in the product than your reply suggests you do.

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[Robusto]

Those e cigars sound grim. Good luck to the tester!


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[ValeTudoGuy]

What's truly laughable is that you believe that in this modern age you can offer a product to the public and expect total impunity to scrutiny. You discredit yourself, your product and your company with your basic inability to be transparent with your actions. You not I have been duplicitous in your posting On this forum

Secondly please could you advise me why Wikipedia should have any bearing On the validity of my views?

Thirdly how are any of my comments unrelated?

Fourthly this thread is most certainly of interest to me, why else would I spend my time here?

Finally there is no need to get personal, you know very little of me or my friends. My unrelated posts on this forum are simply that... Unrelated, so im not sure why you allude to them? What have you actually brought to this forum other than half truths and post after post of stock corporate advertising spiel?

Edit: Saying your product contains the same ingredient as the best in the business.... Vegetable Glycerol is like a rep from White Lightning Cider saying "Our product contains the same base ingredient as the world's finest Cognac.... Alcohol."

Technically it's true but in reality they could be world's apart!

I'm still interested to know the source of your Vegetable Glycerol (Are we actually clear at this point that is in fact the base of your liquids? You stated earlier that it was Vegetable Glycol which does not exist.)

[Zebedee]

if all you've got to say is how great your product is then that's cool and all but it's not going to win you any friends man. you joined up under a false premise and were quickly found out- admittedly, you didn't try and deny it so props for that but now you're just kind of being an arse. instead of constantly going on about your product why don't you come chat in other areas of the forum, people might be willing to take your recommendations more seriously if you didn't come across as such a one trick pony my friend.

[monkey66]

Loving this thread

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[peanutpete]

i under stand you are trying to sell your product and good luck to you but having a go at a member of this forum is not the best way forward
to me this product does not make any sense at all most cigar smokers i know do not need a cigar fix they smoke to relax to enjoy the chnaging flavours a cigar can give you which i doubt the cigrz can most smokers like to take some time out of there busy lives to smoke a cigar it is a lot more than just having a fix there is a certain ritual to it.
as i said good luck to you and i may be wrong but imo i can not really see this working

[fordi]

Not for me, far too boring.


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[ValeTudoGuy]

Interesting, your product site only states that one of the ingredients in your liquid is "Cigez Flavour" as to what Cigez Flavour is made up of I can only guess. Luckily a competitor of yours (joy2) was kind enough to supply their ingredients list for a standard flavouring, it contains 18 components.

Of those components 11 are essential oils, an essential oil is made up of 11 groups of chemicals.... Basically each individual essential oil contains at least 11 chemicals but quite easily a lot more.... That's a BARE MINIMUM of 128 chemicals JUST in the flavour aspect of your liquid.

Your claim of a handful of chemicals does not hold much water and that's before worrying If your source of Vegetable Glycerol bothered to clean out the Methanol and Diethylene Glycol.

Your product site suggests that it takes 10x 1.5 second drags to equal the Nicotine contents of 1 full cigarette, you suggest a 10 minute vaping session. At that rate of Nicotine absorption you could be ingesting HUGE amounts of TOXIC Nicotine, IMO far more than most people would ingest smoking a real Cigar.

Thanks, you have justified Cigar smoking to me!

A Cigar a day, keeps the e-cigs away!

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[bubbajvegas]

Flogging a dead horse comes to mind,looool 🐎🐴

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