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    • #17
      Originally posted by simwells View Post
      Also where abouts in Scotland are you?


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      Last edited by AxlJack; 01-03-2020, 10:28 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by AxlJack View Post
        That sounds brilliant!!!

        Is it just a matter of asking the smaller tabac owners how long they've had it or would they know what I mean by an aged cigar?

        (I'm assuming it's just stuff that's moving very slowly for the seller so the cigar is just in the humidor for a few years...am I correct?)

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        Just stick to the ones with walk in humis ask to take a look and start flipping the boxes to look at the date printed on the underside. If your Spanish is good you could always talk to them about it but older stock is less popular there so they don?t tend to think about it as much.

        Yes it?s as simple as that, I was there back in September and picked up plenty of 07 and 08 stock


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        • #19
          Originally posted by AxlJack View Post
          Thanks for that.

          Are there any CCs that might not need aging (or a few months prob)?

          Given that I won't be smoking much (also don't smoke in general) so am focusing on mild/ medium cigars: would aging actually help in any way?

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          Trinidad Reyes, H Upmann Half Corona, Romeo y Julieta Petit/Short Churchill and Hoyo du Monterrey Petit Robusto all smoke well (enough) young in my experience/opinion.

          I personally prefer Cubans with at least 3 years on them (preferably 5) but have found that aging beyond 10 years does not improve the experience for my particular palate.

          As others have said, the only way to discover what works for you is to experiment.


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          • #20
            Originally posted by mcdee View Post
            I think trying to sell a 2017 box of cigars as "vintage" is pushing it a bit.
            Completely agree!


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            • #21
              Originally posted by K444HEP View Post
              Trinidad Reyes, H Upmann Half Corona, Romeo y Julieta Petit/Short Churchill and Hoyo du Monterrey Petit Robusto all smoke well (enough) young in my experience/opinion.

              I personally prefer Cubans with at least 3 years on them (preferably 5) but have found that aging beyond 10 years does not improve the experience for my particular palate.

              As others have said, the only way to discover what works for you is to experiment.


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              Thanks for that

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              • #22
                Originally posted by grumpybaldy View Post
                Good luck with the just 4 a year ambition...
                (Have you introduced yourself on the Newbie Greets section?)
                Not yet....

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                • #23
                  Why are prices higher for old cigars that no one bought when they were produced?

                  Seems a great market for selling old unwanted stock. In my previous career we called them remainders and sold them off cheap.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Kickback View Post
                    Why are prices higher for old cigars that no one bought when they were produced?

                    Seems a great market for selling old unwanted stock. In my previous career we called them remainders and sold them off cheap.
                    What was your previous career? Book salesman?

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                    • #25
                      I spent 20 years in bookselling, yes.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Kickback View Post
                        I spent 20 years in bookselling, yes.
                        Some prefer fresh cigars however there are a lot of Cigar connoisseurs really value and appreciate fine aged tobacco. Other examples include Wines which appreciate in value with age. Can't smoke or drink books lol

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                        • #27
                          You can read a book many times though, unlike a cigar or drink.

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                          • #28
                            There's plenty of places still trying to sell of old Monte Open series sticks cheap, think these we can count as remainders now!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by AxlJack View Post
                              Are there any CCs that might not need aging (or a few months prob)?


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                              I've only been in the game since 2011/2012 so take that into account. I wasn't around for the 'unsmokeably strong when fresh' sticks of the 1990's etc.

                              However, IMO, most regular production from 2018 and 2019 has been eminently smokeable when young. I've noticed a real sweetness and I haven't experienced the awful ammonia of a young 'green' stick for a good while.

                              Let your cigars acclimate for 30 days. Try them.

                              I store at 60-62 % RH.

                              I've had VERY good Punch Punch, Punch DC, RyJ Churchill, Trinidad Fundadores, QdO 50, CoRo, Fonseca No.1 and myriad more from 18/19 boxes and none of the green harshness of earlier years. Either the tobacco vintages were better and leaves were riper with more sugar, or my storage has stabilised very well, or I'm just a lucky bugger.

                              I also have a lot of 2014/15/16/17 stock that is superb so ageing is also good. Some of the best cigars I've ever smoked were humble ERdM Choix Supreme from 2008 and 2009 smoked in 2016-now.

                              I guess what I'm trying to say is aged or not aged, you can still get superb smokes.

                              What ageing won't do is improve a turd. If it's a crap cigar age won't make it better. I have a cab of 50 PLPC that were awful 6 months in and now 6 years later are still awful. Luck of the draw.

                              One way to get aged stock is buy more than you smoke. After a while you'll end up with a pile of aged cigars to chuff through at your leisure.

                              Good luck.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by GLewis79 View Post
                                I've only been in the game since 2011/2012 so take that into account. I wasn't around for the 'unsmokeably strong when fresh' sticks of the 1990's etc.

                                However, IMO, most regular production from 2018 and 2019 has been eminently smokeable when young. I've noticed a real sweetness and I haven't experienced the awful ammonia of a young 'green' stick for a good while.

                                Let your cigars acclimate for 30 days. Try them.

                                I store at 60-62 % RH.

                                I've had VERY good Punch Punch, Punch DC, RyJ Churchill, Trinidad Fundadores, QdO 50, CoRo, Fonseca No.1 and myriad more from 18/19 boxes and none of the green harshness of earlier years. Either the tobacco vintages were better and leaves were riper with more sugar, or my storage has stabilised very well, or I'm just a lucky bugger.

                                I also have a lot of 2014/15/16/17 stock that is superb so ageing is also good. Some of the best cigars I've ever smoked were humble ERdM Choix Supreme from 2008 and 2009 smoked in 2016-now.

                                I guess what I'm trying to say is aged or not aged, you can still get superb smokes.

                                What ageing won't do is improve a turd. If it's a crap cigar age won't make it better. I have a cab of 50 PLPC that were awful 6 months in and now 6 years later are still awful. Luck of the draw.

                                One way to get aged stock is buy more than you smoke. After a while you'll end up with a pile of aged cigars to chuff through at your leisure.

                                Good luck.
                                Thanks for this. Good to know it ain't that bad.

                                One of the issues I'm finding is I can't even get into this ageing situation until I know what I like....and technically according to the reviews I can't try anything until it's aged!

                                As per your post would probably be best to age something for 30days or so and then try different ones to then decide which ones I'd like to age.

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