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  • Laying down

    A question on laying down.
    The sticks are in their plastic wrapper-Best to leave in tack or remove before a 5yr rest!! [emoji3]


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    'Cigars are a hobby, cigarettes an addiction'

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    • #3
      Wrapped in plastic isn't what I smoke. I only have a few machine made CCs that are in plastic wrappers. The rest are all in the nude.

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      • #4
        Laying down

        These are the first new world sticks I?ve ever bought. Just thinking In Order to age nicely, out of their wraps maybe best.




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        • #5
          They breathe through it so won?t change how they age. I?d leave them in them but not everyone does. The cellos meant to be left on but not all do.

          Seeing a nicely browned through age cello wrapped always gets me really looking forward to an older NC though!


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          • #6
            Interestingly not all old sticks in wrappers turn the wrapper yellow. I'm talking old as in 20 years or more. Is it the sticks or the wrapper that mean it doesn't change colour?
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            I think I may finally have this CAD under control...

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            • #7
              aging NC's... its often quite a contentious topic! the usual question is why?

              Generally accepted that NC's are rolled to be smoked. They come ready to go, and its historically been their route to competing - high quality, great construction, ready to go. This casually implies that they dont 'need' aging, but without doubt they can be aged, and they do change. While the changes are less manifest than we might witness with quality cubans, they are changes nevertheless there.

              cello on, celllo off....? if it comes in it, leave it in. I take the same view on tubos too... another contentious topic

              Last edited by Emaresee; 22-04-2020, 08:04 AM.
              "Dear heart, you're talking to a man- a real man- who drinks straight Tequilla, with lime and salt on the rim, and smokes cigars" (J Zavala)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Emaresee View Post
                aging NC's... its often quite a contentious topic! the usual question is why?

                Generally accepted that NC's are rolled to be smoked. They come ready to go, and its historically been their route to competing - high quality, great construction, ready to go. Which casually imoplied they dont 'need' aging, but without doubt they can be aged, and they do change. While the changes are less manifest than we might witness with quality cubans, they are changes nevertheless there.

                cello on, celllo off....? if it comes in it, leave it in. I take the same view on tubos too... another contentious topic

                Whenever I've looked into it, more often than not I tend to hear about aged NC's 'tailing off' or being past their best. I have a few Serie V and the like that I'm trying to leave a year or two to find the difference, but long term ageing is reserved for Cubans I've hidden away.

                It is nice to be able to grab an NC without considering age though.

                Cello on or off? I leave them on to help buffer any swings in humidity, as well as the physical protection.

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                • #9
                  So with this in mind say the Perez Carrillo Encore, which won cigar of the year 2018.
                  Might not be best to lay down in order perhaps for them to appreciate in flavour and or monetary value?


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                  • #10
                    A lot of Americans like the taste of their cigars to be peppery, leaving them a few years lets them round out to a smoother more mellow flavour.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PeeJay View Post
                      A lot of Americans like the taste of their cigars to be peppery, leaving them a few years lets them round out to a smoother more mellow flavour.
                      Thats a good point... I suppose the other thing is you never really know how old the cigar you're smoking is. Especially if buying 'second hand' so to speak.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kern47 View Post
                        Thats a good point... I suppose the other thing is you never really know how old the cigar you're smoking is. Especially if buying 'second hand' so to speak.

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                        That?s also a good point.
                        I?ve bought a box of Norte?o with the box still sealed In thick cello... I?m wondering if that should be removed at all?


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Good Stick View Post
                          That?s also a good point.
                          I?ve bought a box of Norte?o with the box still sealed In thick cello... I?m wondering if that should be removed at all?


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                          Personally, I would open them just to check the condition of if nothing else.

                          I'm sure some people have experimented with leaving them completely sealed for years, and everyone has their own theories on it. To get any idea though you'd need to have two of the same boxes, treat one as normal (opened and checked on and 'burped'), and the other kept completely sealed for a good few years. Not sure anyone has done that yet?

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                          • #14
                            Agree that?s the best option, to be certain.
                            I wonder, when packaged and sealed, it must be done under stringent conditions. Assuming there aren?t any pin pricks in the plastic, these would keep their packaged humidity? Not indefinitely, but I guess for some time?


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Good Stick View Post
                              Agree that?s the best option, to be certain.
                              I wonder, when packaged and sealed, it must be done under stringent conditions. Assuming there aren?t any pin pricks in the plastic, these would keep their packaged humidity? Not indefinitely, but I guess for some time?


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                              I would have thought so, although some of the seals may not be perfect. I'd still keep them in a humidor to be safe, but the exchange will certainly be slowed to almost zero I would have thought.

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