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    Interesting Medical Journal Entry

    Effect of cigar smoking on carboxyhaemoglobin and plasma nicotine concentrations in primary pipe and cigar smokers and ex-cigarette smokers
    http://www.bmj.com/content/2/6099/1387
    Five ex-cigarette smokers and five primary pipe and cigar smokers each smoked a large cigar. Carboxyhaemoglobin (COHb) and plasma nicotine levels were measured. In the ex-cigarette smokers mean COHb rose from 2·9% to 9·6% and plasma nicotine from 79·0 nmol/l to 281 nmol/l (12·8-45·6 ng/ml). This response was similar to that of cigarette smokers smoking cigarettes, which indicated that the subjects had inhaled and absorbed significant amounts of nicotine. In the primary pipe and cigar smokers the mean COHb rose from 0·8% to 1·0% and the plasma nicotine from 21 nmol/l to 32 nmol/l (3·4-5·2 ng/ml), indicating neither significant inhalation nor significant nicotine absorption. Since ex-cigarette smokers do not seem to lose their habit of inhaling when they change to cigars, measures aimed at persuading smokers to switch to cigars will have little effect on their health. Pipe and cigar smokers who have never smoked cigarettes do not inhale, which probably accounts for their reduced incidence of coronary heart disease and lung cancer. But they also appear not to absorb nicotine, which suggests that nicotine is absorbed largely from the lung and that the buccal mucosa is unimportant. It also raises the interesting question of why primary pipe and cigar smokers do smoke.


    Basically it says that cigars and pipes are non addictive, But do read the abstract in full for the whole picture.
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  • #2
    What ive said all along Having never smoked cigarettes . If smoke does pass to my lungs i really know about it . Though there is a small amount of nicotine absorbtion , not enough to crave for more than i choose, which is governed more by the conditions ie time to relax sunny day etc.

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    • #3
      I too have never smoked cigarettes but ive never found myself needing a smoke "just because"

      "It also raises the interesting question of why primary pipe and cigar smokers do smoke"

      I smoke because i enjoy it like drinking and certan "other" things involving leather and whips that are not suitable for this forum why people think that if you smoke your instantly a addict is beyond me cant they think its because we enjoy it.

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      • #4
        its' a 1977 article !

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        • #5
          But human physiology hasn't changed in the intervening years.
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          • #6
            But human knowledge has...

            Anyway, seems like a pretty unscientific test, "each smoked a large cigar." - not exactly detailed (time, size of cigar, any kind of test on similar cigar for chemical make up etc.

            And anyone who's felt the effects of a good strong cigar knows - "nor significant nicotine absorption" - is way off the mark!

            "It also raises the interesting question of why primary pipe and cigar smokers do smoke." - Taste perhaps? Why do we drink anything apart from water for hydration??

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            • #7
              This one hypothesizes the reason cigarettes are more addictive. And its from 1994

              Ammonia in cigarette smoke: cause of addiction and associated diseases?
              http://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/30/ammonia-cigarette-smoke-cause-addiction-and-associated-diseases
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              • #8
                And that's too scientific ;p

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                • #9
                  Let em have their say lads, then less people will smoke so there are more 'goodies' for us!
                  Andy

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                  • #10
                    It's a pain in the @ss that life insurance doesn't care about the difference though, one or two cigars a week puts me in the same category as any cigarrette smoker, with the associated hike in premiums!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bigboned View Post
                      Let em have their say lads, then less people will smoke so there are more 'goodies' for us!
                      agreed: at some future point there'll be so few people smoking cigarettes that it just wont be an issue any more.

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