Aging advice

[Moon Dancer]

Exactly VTG, and unlike vines which don't move, tobacco has to be replanted every year. A strange fact (I don't know if it's true), the thing that makes Cuban tobacco different isn't the plant, the climate or the growing methods but the soil .... the soil is poor, which has the effect of stressing the plant into releasing the sugars and enzymes which traditionally gave Cuban tobacco it's unique taste. If that is correct, using chemicals to make the land more productive would have a reverse effect on the plant. More or bigger plants per acre, but not as good.

It seems to me that Cuban tobacco leaf was at it's best when growers only enhancement to their land was with Filtered Beer

[tippexx]

Thanks PeeJay.

But there can be quite a few of them each year.

http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/briefsummarylist.aspx?sortorder=specialtype&releaselow=2013&releasehigh=2013&highlightstatus=true

[tommy]

RE = regional edition, ie only released in the UK (allegedly)
LE - limited edition, only released for that year

Thanks PeeJay.

[PeeJay]

Can someone explain RE and LE to me please.

RE = regional edition, ie only released in the UK (allegedly)
LE - limited edition, only released for that year

[PeeJay]

I have a God of Fire from 2005, is it likely to be any good? I must admit that I hadn't paid it much attention.

Only one way to find out, commit it to the god

[tommy]

I too think the push for more and more LE and RE is having a detrimental effect on regular standard production, not just in the number of deletions from where perhaps selected leaf is being diverted, but because time has become the primary driver and future consideration and good husbandry have taken a back seat. There is a thread over on FOH where Rob explains in his opinion that Cuba is not responsible for most of what's happening and that the initiative behind pretty much everything is with Imperial, who's motivations are not quality orientated but are about profit continuation. Personally, I think if the American market ever came on-stream, the standard production situation would get worse with a repeat of 1999/2002, but this time with a less reliable agricultural product, and with even more special releases 'blinged' especially for the US.



This unfortunately too is being mentioned, and I too have trouble with some post 06 vitola once they get to a certain age, in fact some of them might as well be NC because what Cuban taste is hardly there.

Can someone explain RE and LE to me please.

[tippexx]

I don't know anything about farming in Cuba... But over used soil provides less nutrients and modern farming chemicals can further strip goodness from the plants and soil.

Exactly VTG, and unlike vines which don't move, tobacco has to be replanted every year. A strange fact (I don't know if it's true), the thing that makes Cuban tobacco different isn't the plant, the climate or the growing methods but the soil .... the soil is poor, which has the effect of stressing the plant into releasing the sugars and enzymes which traditionally gave Cuban tobacco it's unique taste. If that is correct, using chemicals to make the land more productive would have a reverse effect on the plant. More or bigger plants per acre, but not as good.

[tippexx]

I personally regret the introduction of LE?s etc, A return to improved quality of the standard assortment would be much more creditable. Hopefully this will come if and when the American market opens up

I too think the push for more and more LE and RE is having a detrimental effect on regular standard production, not just in the number of deletions from where perhaps selected leaf is being diverted, but because time has become the primary driver and future consideration and good husbandry have taken a back seat. There is a thread over on FOH where Rob explains in his opinion that Cuba is not responsible for most of what's happening and that the initiative behind pretty much everything is with Imperial, who's motivations are not quality orientated but are about profit continuation. Personally, I think if the American market ever came on-stream, the standard production situation would get worse with a repeat of 1999/2002, but this time with a less reliable agricultural product, and with even more special releases 'blinged' especially for the US.

In the past more often than not, preferred manufacturer was the reliable standard. Sadly, I struggle now at times to identify the true signature of many

This unfortunately too is being mentioned, and I too have trouble with some post 06 vitola once they get to a certain age, in fact some of them might as well be NC because what Cuban taste is hardly there.

[Sean]

Hope so mate, but not a clue.

Failing that which i dont think they will they do look awesome though[emoji41]


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[Moon Dancer]

A few years back wine aficionados used to suggest that France was the only true wine country, how things have changed. I wonder what the jury?s verdict will on Cuban vis a vis NC's in 10 or so years

I suspect I won't be around to read it, but, one just never knowes

[ValeTudoGuy]

Meant to be amazing smokes them arent they

Hope so mate, but not a clue.

[Sean]

I have a God of Fire from 2005, is it likely to be any good? I must admit that I hadn't paid it much attention.

Meant to be amazing smokes them arent they

[ValeTudoGuy]

There are a vast number of NCs and I agree most don't deliver like a fine puro, but I've smoked NCs longer than fine puros and there are a few sticks worthy of sharing real estate along side your puros in your finest humidor - some of the older Fuente God of Fire come to mind.

I have a God of Fire from 2005, is it likely to be any good? I must admit that I hadn't paid it much attention.

[butternutsquashpie]

Besides chico, you're too young to know the benefits of a well-aged cigar!

some would call that inexperience!

i on the other hand, call it something else and take it as a compliment!

[TJCoro]

Age of Maturity!

Sticks that age well in NCs:
Certain Fuentes
Davidoffs
Aged Davidoffs
Diamond Crown Maximus
Certain Padrons

TJ: wanna back me up here??

Sorry matey...no can do. Although I've had one or two NC sticks that appeared to benefit with age - the Indian Tabac Teepee (predecessor to the Rocky Patel) comes to mind, but that was few and far between...whatever that means!

Besides chico, you're too young to know the benefits of a well-aged cigar!


Perro, el Perro


Haha! In other words...you're still living in a puppy dog world!