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  • #16
    Roll on April next year when I'm off for 3 weeks. Supposed to be a holiday but its a cigar buying expedition with a bit of rum and sun thrown in

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    • #17
      Originally posted by misterbulgarin View Post
      Interesting , I can see 'pre-embargo' cigars being the 'in thing' if this thing comes around.

      funny thing is, this is smothing that we in the USA have talked about. lot of people are buying any thing while others its business as usual. Prices in the USA have just gone up because of a new tax. A few dollers per cigar.

      i feel that the cigars will be like the 99-01 stocks that you see for sale all the time or worse. I also think the prices will be more then the NC stuff. Kind of like getting a nice french or Italian wine compared to some Cali one. You will always pay for somthing better.

      It not like the USA is not smoking cubans at all. the USA is one of the top cuban smoking countries. but for the average joe who does not know how to use the Worl Wide Web will be jumping all over this.

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      • #18
        good post goodfella no pun intended i also live in the states and i agree the ones who know how to get c.c will always be able to so. while the new smokers will try them just to look cool.

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        • #19
          I love hearing you guys panic, Fairly sure this is a few years off. Us Yanks will effect supply and demand though thats for sure when it does happen.

          As someone already mentioned we have new taxes here, and there will also be an import tax. Never mind that each state has additional taxes on cigars. Some states like mine taxes are pretty hefty. The article mentions the Cohiba Robusto. This is roughly a 12.00 cigar when purchased from online vendors with no taxes. Here in the states this cigar will likely run 20.00 with all taxes applied in many states. This means most would buy 1 on occassion, but this isnt going to be a huge seller. Even at say 18.00 that means 450.00 a box. Americans in large number are not spending 450.00 on a box of cigars. I buy now and can assure that most of the people I know who buy and smoke CCs are not spending that much.

          This non internet savy Joe blow is not the guy who will drop this money either.
          Currently and now I and others are buying boxes and will continue to do so. If you have the money its a good idea to store up and weather the intial storm.

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          • #20
            Agree.

            Originally posted by Broody View Post
            I love hearing you guys panic, Fairly sure this is a few years off. Us Yanks will effect supply and demand though thats for sure when it does happen.

            As someone already mentioned we have new taxes here, and there will also be an import tax. Never mind that each state has additional taxes on cigars. Some states like mine taxes are pretty hefty. The article mentions the Cohiba Robusto. This is roughly a 12.00 cigar when purchased from online vendors with no taxes. Here in the states this cigar will likely run 20.00 with all taxes applied in many states. This means most would buy 1 on occassion, but this isnt going to be a huge seller. Even at say 18.00 that means 450.00 a box. Americans in large number are not spending 450.00 on a box of cigars. I buy now and can assure that most of the people I know who buy and smoke CCs are not spending that much.

            This non internet savy Joe blow is not the guy who will drop this money either.
            Currently and now I and others are buying boxes and will continue to do so. If you have the money its a good idea to store up and weather the intial storm.
            Have to agree with Broody on this one.This has been getting discussed for as long as I can remember and the legal trademarke implications alone will take years to get settled in the courts.
            Your average US cigar smoker is not suddenly going to go out and start purchasing boxes of cigars at $400-$500 dollars a box just because it`s suddenly made available to him.
            "Keep your eyes peeled, your arse up, head down, and your ear to the gound" WHISKY77

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Broody View Post
              The article mentions the Cohiba Robusto. This is roughly a 12.00 cigar when purchased from online vendors with no taxes. Here in the states this cigar will likely run 20.00 with all taxes applied in many states.
              Oooooh... nice and cheap... (?17 over here = approx. $28)
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              • #22
                Originally posted by simonjgriffithshr View Post
                Oooooh... nice and cheap... (?17 over here = approx. $28)
                well as the saying goes,"in this case I guess it sucks to be you." There is little chance Americans would buy at that price on a consistent basis. Most spend 8-10 and get a good quality NC stick which while sometimes not as complex, it can be just as entertaining.

                I smoke a fair amount of NC and CC now. Pepin, pete johnson, Dion/illusione are mainly what I smoke on the NC side. All are good quality sticks with a lot of flavor and strength and a decent price point. Many run the 7-12 range and that is in my state with horrid taxes. Online I can often source these same sticks for 5-8 sometimes as low as 4.00. Example I just purchased 10 Pepin JJ maduros for 42.00. To me having smoked the Cohiba Maduros there is no logic in supporting a bad stick when the JJ maduros destroy them in every category that matters to me including taste and complexity.

                I may drop 20-28 on a stick once or twice a year and I am a 1 a day usually cigar smoker. Americans while often wasteful with money and credit are not going to go that far on any regular basis.

                Dont get me wrong I like CCs and in some cigars they are clearly superior to NC counterparts. In some sticks I find they are not though, or it is a mood thing. I also have much more construction issues with CCs then the NCs I have listed.

                Dont worry boys and girls the waves will be a little rocky when the gates open up in say two years, but after the initial storm things will calm. I know individuals like myself who can smoke most anything they want CC and NC. Many smoke both and would and will continue to even when everything is available legally.

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