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[grumpybaldy]

These from the island so went through the fridge/freezer/fridge regime, but I then forgot to take them out of the fridge. An extra 10 days in with the butter and milk; hoping a couple of days at room temperature will see them OK else an expensive mistake!

[Emaresee]

I reckon you will be ok here...

FWIW if you posted a picture I cant see it! on the web or tapatalk...

[grumpybaldy]

Sorry, forgot pic!

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[PeeJay]

Sorry, forgot pic!

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[Simon Bolivar]

I can reassure you Grumpy, I once left some cigars in the freezer for 6 months, after a Cuba trip. I only found them, when the wife asked what the package was. Put them in the fridge for 3 days & then in the humi. I know you'd expect the worse but no noticeable difference, apart from halting any ageing process. Not something I'd like to repeat mind.
Just another tip, I freeze full boxes in their box, still works & then you still have the correct colour range across the box.

[PeeJay]

I can reassure you Grumpy, I once left some cigars in the freezer for 6 months, after a Cuba trip. I only found them, when the wife asked what the package was. Put them in the fridge for 3 days & then in the humi. I know you'd expect the worse but no noticeable difference, apart from halting any ageing process. Not something I'd like to repeat mind.
Just another tip, I freeze full boxes in their box, still works & then you still have the correct colour range across the box.

I wondered about that last point. I took the lid off my box of La Isla but left them in the box.

[Vitola]

Do you guys freeze everything you buy outside the UK?

[PeeJay]

Do you guys freeze everything you buy outside the UK?

Only cigars bought at source. Cigars produced for export are frozen by the manufacturers.

[moteyi]

These from the island so went through the fridge/freezer/fridge regime, but I then forgot to take them out of the fridge. An extra 10 days in with the butter and milk; hoping a couple of days at room temperature will see them OK else an expensive mistake!

To be on the safe side, I suggest that you send me a couple for analysis and I will let you know if they are OK. Happy to do this as a favour on this occasion.

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[Simon Bolivar]

Only cigars bought at source. Cigars produced for export are frozen by the manufacturers.

Habanos cigars are frozen before export, haven't heard of other countries doing that but of course they may well be. One thing to remember is that if buying in areas that the climate supports weevils, the boxes can be infected there e.g I have seen Weevils in Spanish Tabac's So I freeze everything to be sure. The larger your collection, the less risk you should tolerate.

[Simon Bolivar]

I wondered about that last point. I took the lid off my box of La Isla but left them in the box.

Good idea but of course when Habanos freeze their export stock, they do so in the boxes, -18oc is efficient enough.

[Vitola]

So Simon would you recommend freezing when buying from our ?friends down under? - and if so, how long do you freeze for?


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[Tomm783]

So Simon would you recommend freezing when buying from our ?friends down under? - and if so, how long do you freeze for?


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I wondered this when I first heard of freezing early in my cigar journey and decided to geek out with some science. If you use the worlds favourite search engine and type in:

Low-temperature as an alternative to fumigation to disinfest stored tobacco of the cigarette beetle, Lasioderma serricorne (F.) (Coleoptera: Anobiidae)

you?ll get a research paper by the Japan Tobacco Inc.

Upshot is when I freeze, i ziplock with minimal air, fridge for 24h, freezer (mine is -20c) 24h, fridge 24h, room temperature 3hours minimum, into humidor for a sleep.

Hope that helps!


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[Simon Bolivar]

I wondered this when I first heard of freezing early in my cigar journey and decided to geek out with some science. If you use the worlds favourite search engine and type in:

Low-temperature as an alternative to fumigation to disinfest stored tobacco of the cigarette beetle, Lasioderma serricorne (F.) (Coleoptera: Anobiidae)

you?ll get a research paper by the Japan Tobacco Inc.

Upshot is when I freeze, i ziplock with minimal air, fridge for 24h, freezer (mine is -20c) 24h, fridge 24h, room temperature 3hours minimum, into humidor for a sleep.

Hope that helps!


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Vitola, in theory there should be a problem with buying Havana's from down under as they will have been frozen before export but Weevils will survive in Tassie & thrive anywhere North of Canberra. You don't know if the seller has recently added some Customs from other countries into his humi' & as many of us have found - freezing doesn't alter the taste or future ageing properties, there is no down side to freezing, for the little hassle required is worth it for peace of mind.

Tommy, your system obviously works for you but I did read once that longer than 24hrs is required to be sure all lava are killed. I think this might be based on the time it takes for the temp inside your wrapped cigar box to get down to -18/-20 & still have enough time to ensure they are dead. Personally I use 2fridge-3freezer-2fridge ratio & I know others do too but it may be over cautious.

[Emaresee]

So Simon would you recommend freezing when buying from our “friends down under” - and if so, how long do you freeze for? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

They’re fine