How to declare and prepay excise duty on cigars ordered from abroad

[Deano]

Then it's 50 per person, as it's outside the EU. Duty free or not. They won't be swayed by "Switzerland is almost the EU" either

I doubt they'll just allow you to state "200 a piece". They will weigh the tobacco and apply a charge that way.

[Rasputin]

Well this is the problem... Switzerland not technically part of the EU however most things treat it as it. I guess with the doris in tow. I could proabably say roughly 200 a piece... Its not a big issue as I could just bring them over in phases but would be nice to get them at once.

[rascal]

Does anyone know what would happen if I brought 500 cigars back that were not bought in Duty free but in an actual shop and I had recipets. Will be moving house soon and would like to load up with as many as possible before I come back but getting nailed by HMRC doesnt appeal. Surely they have something in place for people who move abroad.... Any idea-s.

You would have to pay duty if from outside the EU even if you could prove you bought them in the UK and duty was all ready paid still tough luck they would want it again.


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[PeeJay]

Within the EU they could count as personal usage with a stretch of the imagination. Worst case scenario? Weigh them and multiply the weight in kilos by ?265, that would be the duty robbery.jpg

[Rasputin]

Does anyone know what would happen if I brought 500 cigars back that were not bought in Duty free but in an actual shop and I had recipets. Will be moving house soon and would like to load up with as many as possible before I come back but getting nailed by HMRC doesnt appeal. Surely they have something in place for people who move abroad.... Any idea-s.

[cigarmo]

Robbing gits!


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only for tobacco products, if your ordering a humi then there are no extras to pay!

[mattyhall22]

Robbing gits!


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[ValeTudoGuy]

Just a quickie, if you are ordering from within the EU (germany) do you still get hit with all the duties and costs etc. Or as it is part of the EU and duties have been paid in that country are we ok?


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It has to be a face to face transaction I believe, anything else and forget an open trade with the EU as you will have to pay all UK duties.

[mattyhall22]

Just a quickie, if you are ordering from within the EU (germany) do you still get hit with all the duties and costs etc. Or as it is part of the EU and duties have been paid in that country are we ok?


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[butternutsquashpie]

Sorry to cut from the cigar review..

I don't have any figures, but I'd be very surprised to discover that smoking-related lung cancer and other health issues are as prevalent in cigar smokers as they are in cigarette smokers.

ACTUALLY, i've a mate in nursing right now who has some figures for cigar smokers and various cancers:
lung, esophagus, cheek, etc. A few tibits of information that might help calm the conscience here and there. I'll go post that in a few minutes

But yes, i do agree with that you mean by the taxation thing. Bloody shame they have to do that....... and i wouldn't be so quick to say legalised robbery. Rather, it's just that they seem to tax cigarettes and without a bat of an eye, group them together blindly. lack of judgement rather than explicit robbery, IMHO.....

[BoneyBlade]

?3 a cigar seems ok when you break it down but its still a kick in the stomach when you read the 3 figure sum.

It has left a bad taste but at the end, about ?8 for a decent robusto stick is not that bad.

[Pete]

?3 a cigar seems ok when you break it down but its still a kick in the stomach when you read the 3 figure sum.

[mrcigar]

Love the idea, but outsiders always put cigars and cigarettes together. They think it all smells and tastes terrible, and causes the same health issues. Therefore, they group them together in regulation AND taxation.

Now we all know that most cigar smokers are not addicted nor do it to get their fix of nicotine. This is proved well enough by the fact that no normal people under the age of 25 (except some special ones ) would even try to buy/smoke them. The same with a pipe. This just proves that ciagarettes and pipe tobacco&cigars should really be grouped diferently But the general public doesn't know that, unfortunately.

This is something that angers me wholey in my country, and apparently yours too. You can tell by the lack of my emoticons in this matter..........

Yes, this is very true because excise duty is charged for the purposes of funding the campaigns, initiatives, medical care and other costly consequences resulting from the use of the product. In this case it's tobacco, and the government obviously believe that a man smoking one or two cigars a week presents the country with as a much a costly problem as do cigarette smokers. I don't have any figures, but I'd be very surprised to discover that smoking-related lung cancer and other health issues are as prevalent in cigar smokers as they are in cigarette smokers.

I am staggered by the amount of duty put on cigars - it is huge, and ridiculous! It's not that the government don't know this, or are unaware of the differences between cigars smoking and cigarette smoking - it's simply an arrogant excuse for legalised robbery.

[BoneyBlade]

Geez, well which fatties did you get anyways?? And how much for em there?
Better be well worth it!

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That price doesn't include the price of cigars and postage. The cigars I ordered are not available in UK but if they were, they would have been more expensive then what I got them for. Check out the "New In My Humidor" section for what I got. atm I am like OMG!

[butternutsquashpie]

sweet little request from HMRC. This is what you have to pay if you order 40 robusto cigars (2 boxes of 20 cigars).
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Geez, well which fatties did you get anyways?? And how much for em there?
Better be well worth it!

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