How to spot counterfeits

[cohibaIV]

Hmmmmm Something dodgy with the EL lable when I look at it, but still not sure??

[TJCoro]

Different Bands, Same Year ?

The labels are all wrong TJ,when compared to the original and genuine cigar.Rodriguez should not be on the band at all, it should be the 1875 date.

50RG and 5 inches.

Sorry TJ.

You make a very good point there Wisk, a very good point, indeed. The band on the EL in my pic is not the same as the one in your pic.

Still, I've seen both bands on R&Js currently produced, e.g., the Belicosos and the Short Churchill. So what gives...what does this mean????

Perhaps they are both authentic? Could this possibly be?

How about the fact that both are from the same year??? Does this mean anything to anybody?

Names TJ, TJCoro, and senors Wisky and Ramon are on the case

[goldencigars]

What do you think, muchachos?

Fakes.

Sometimes it is really difficult to know,if a cigars is fake,I'm not talking about a cristal top boxes,or the years of LE's that they don't exsist..etc..

Also the cedar boxes,seals stamps,rings,cigar size,etc...can be real,but the cigars are fake.
For me a cigar is the only one thing that you can be sure,that it is fake or legit.
The smell,the taste,combuction,ash structure,ash color,triple cap.

I have had some bad experience too,and I improved my skills.

[whisky77]

Not sure.

Not sure why this happened Ramon.I personally think Habanos like to offer different variations for release to gauge feedback.IMO it often confuses the consumer, especially those who are not anoraks like ourselves (no offence intended).

A number of Vitolas have been released as EL and then been re-released a few years later.No idea what the thinking is behind this at all.

Those ELs that TJ has are definately not right though.

[Ramon]

The labels are all wrong TJ,when compared to the original and genuine cigar.Rodriguez should not be on the band at all, it should be the 1845 date.

Strangely the 2005 RyJ PP had the new style band, then they went back to the old style for later EL's.

[whisky77]

Unfortunately.

The labels are all wrong TJ,when compared to the original and genuine cigar.Rodriguez should not be on the band at all, it should be the 1875 date.

50RG and 5 inches.

Sorry TJ.

[Ramon]

How about the rest of you Habana aficionados - real or fake?

Sorry, fakes.

Some useful info on the new seals here http://www.habanos.com/article.aspx?aid=330

[TJCoro]

A Big, Beautiful Perfecto!

[quote=Ryan;14793]There was a RyJ Petit Piramide EL released in 2005 but those look too long, they look like regular piramide length.
Anything over 5", I'd say fake.[/quote]


They're a bit bigger than the RyJ EL 05 by several inches ( I think Mr. Ryan is on to something!)... over 7 inches and in the perfecto format. Extremely beautiful and oily, as you can see.

Senor Ryan sez fake!

How about the rest of you Habana aficionados - real or fake?

[Ryan]

What do you think, muchachos?

There was a RyJ Petit Piramide EL released in 2005 but those look too long, they look like regular piramide length.
Anything over 5", I'd say fake.

[TJCoro]

Genuine or Counterfeit? You Decide.

What do you think, muchachos?

[TJCoro]

Warranty Seals Under a UV Black light

More useful information for the Habana aficionado. Below in the old warranty seal on the left and new seal on the right as seen under a UV black light



Names TJ, TJCoro, at you service.

[TJCoro]

and he's oh so serious.

I'll add some pics regarding the Cohiba Robusto fakes I have compared to the real thing. I tell you what, it's hard work seeing the differences - if any.

Leave it to senor Deano to bring it down a notch. He's sooooo serious.

Wasn't he the one who wore a coat and tie to the walk?. WAZUPWITDAT???

I'm TJ, TJCoro Damn it!

[Stevieboy]

Please only post the originals of the young lady getting down to it. We've seen enough pictures of the Big Man to last a lifetime!

F.O.M C.I.W.G.S.M

[nicwing]

I'll add some pics regarding the Cohiba Robusto fakes I have compared to the real thing. I tell you what, it's hard work seeing the differences - if any.

Please only post the originals of the young lady getting down to it. We've seen enough pictures of the Big Man to last a lifetime!

[nicwing]

[quote=TJCoro;13727]

UKCF Dictionary, please!

Fell Off My Chair I Was Giggling So Much , but I would have thought that was bleedin' obvious!