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If legitimate vendors are selling fake Cuban cigars, should we as purchasers be looking to form a collective to group buy and legally Import from Cuba to cut out the chance of fakes?.
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Check out the Master cigars case to see what H&F thinks of grey imports.Originally posted by JOAO LA PEZ View Post
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Has this stuff spread into stores or is it mainly occurring over internet sites?
You would of thought that vendors would check their stock.Comment
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There is nothing to stop you importing from CubaComment
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The courts maybe, kinda, possibly agree with you but it would cost you a fortune in legal fees if H&F decided to fight the case. Grey imports (imports without the agreement of the company) are ilegal from outside the EU and treated the same as counterfeit goods.Originally posted by JOAO LA PEZ View Post
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Who is the "legitimate" here? Everything in this story is grey, at the borderline, etc. To begin with, it's illegal for anyone in Spain to ship cigars to a foreign country?Originally posted by JOAO LA PEZ View PostComment
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No, except tons of paperworks in the UK (I guess), and maybe the fact that having to deal with a lobby of former cuban militaries for whom the word "corruption" has not the same meaning it has for you is not exactly easy…Originally posted by JOAO LA PEZ View PostComment
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Go for it then, nothing to stop you.Originally posted by JOAO LA PEZ View PostOriginally posted by Simon Bolivar
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Parallel imports, H&F fought a case and won, this was as far as I can see overturned by the court of appeal.
Unless the Cuban government have a restriction on how many cigars you can bring back with you, what is to stop you flying there filling up your suitcase and getting the plane back, then going through the red channel at customs?.Comment
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Are you a Musician, it sounds to me like you are playing a pipeOriginally posted by monkey66 View PostComment
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I don't know what you are saying there but what I am saying is very simple.Originally posted by JOAO LA PEZ View Post
If you think it is doable go for it and we'll buy our cigars from you.
Now back on topic....Originally posted by Simon Bolivar
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Whoa whoa hold your horses Monkey! Nothing against Joao La Pez, but on what grounds would we trust he's not throwing some fraudulent cigars into the batches he brings back from Cuba?Originally posted by monkey66 View Post
Just seems like an uphill battle guys that is hardly worth your arguing.Business in the front. Party in the back.
UKCF is now mobile friendly!
The Mullet Dog is so on fleek!Comment
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I certainly would not be selling them personal consumption only.
Larrysputnik, 2 adults in frank discussion, i rarely take offense at anything and as far as i can see nothing is offensive.Comment
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Just sounds like you are playing the company tune to me. No offense intended. But, every mention of anything that would take business away from the UK distributors is pooh poohed or rubbished.Originally posted by monkey66 View PostComment
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In the Judgement of the court of appeal, the ruling was that HSA receive a 2% payment from the official shops in Cuba and that is enough to be taken as consent to allow parallel imports, if this incorrect then i cannot find a later judgement over that, as long as the limit of $25,000 is not exceeded in a single purchase.
It's going to be fun bringing ?15,000 of Cigars through the red channel at Heathrow
Mind I could always buy from NC sources and avoid all the hassle.Comment
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