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  • Sligub
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    Originally posted by PeeJay View Post
    Nothing but they can stop him locking the door
    Originally posted by Scott View Post
    Notify the captain?
    Neither of which would/could stop a trained pilot from crashing a plane, there is almost nothing that could be done to prevent a dedicated/insane pilot once they are alone at the controls for more than a minute.

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  • cj121
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    The whole story is a horrid one. Deepest sympathy goes out to the families that have lost their loved ones.

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  • PeeJay
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    Latest from the Mail Online

    he Germanwings pilot who deliberately crashed into a mountain killing all 150 on board had to stop his training because he was suffering from depression and 'burnout', it emerged today. Andreas G?nter Lubitz locked his captain out of the cockpit before ploughing the Airbus A320 into the French Alps at more than 400mph. The chilling final moments of the doomed jet were revealed today by French prosecutors who said Lubitz's sole aim was to 'destroy the plane'. It has since emerged that the 28-year-old was forced to postpone his pilot training in 2008 because of mental health problems, with a friend saying he was 'in depression.' Carsten Spohr, chairman of Germanwings' parents company Lufthansa, confirmed that he had taken several months off work and had to retrain to join the firm.'

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  • Simon G
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    Originally posted by Johnny Thunder View Post
    Words can't express the shock you feel when news like this breaks. Those poor people on board must have
    been terrified for a long time seeing the pilot and cabin crew trying desperately to smash their way into
    the cockpit, knowing full well what was coming.

    I cant help feeling that, indirectly, terrorism wins again today. The safety locking system on the cockpit door
    was a post 9-11 measure.
    unbelievable that last fact.
    maybe it should be so that only the pilots know how to over ride the lock. But then what's to say a pilot isn't threatened with his life to open and over ride it!?! Gone are the days of seeing the pilot fly your plane, as a kid. If someone's gonna overide the controls or pilot, I guess there are ways and no stopping it. A real shame. God bless the innocent lives lost on that flight.

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  • TonyN
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    Easyjet have just confirmed as from today when one pilot or co pilot leaves the cockpit another will take his place before he even leaves his chair.

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  • Krist
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    I think that theres no right answer for all these solutions, I'm sure theres lots of aviation and security professionals that at the end of the day made a decision on the back of a risk assessment of possible scenarios and thats all they can do.

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  • Scott
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    Originally posted by Sligub View Post
    And what is an untrained flight attendant going to do to stop a pilot crashing a plane?
    Notify the captain?

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  • PeeJay
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    Originally posted by Sligub View Post
    And what is an untrained flight attendant going to do to stop a pilot crashing a plane?
    Nothing but they can stop him locking the door

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  • Sligub
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    And what is an untrained flight attendant going to do to stop a pilot crashing a plane?

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  • PeeJay
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    Originally posted by Sligub View Post
    Who would be the second person in the event of one of the crew having to leave, and only one input is required to cancel the crew code as far as I know
    Simple enough to introduce a rule that a pilot can't leave the cockpit unless a steward/ess steps in to replace him.

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  • Johnny Thunder
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    Words can't express the shock you feel when news like this breaks. Those poor people on board must have
    been terrified for a long time seeing the pilot and cabin crew trying desperately to smash their way into
    the cockpit, knowing full well what was coming.

    I cant help feeling that, indirectly, terrorism wins again today. The safety locking system on the cockpit door
    was a post 9-11 measure.

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  • Sligub
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    Originally posted by Ryan View Post
    Two people in the cockpit at all times will have to become mandatory.
    Who would be the second person in the event of one of the crew having to leave, and only one input is required to cancel the crew code as far as I know

    Originally posted by oskihen View Post
    What surprised me most was the fact that apparently he pressed a button that ade the plane descend , with computers etc GPS you'd of thought the plane's GPS would of overridden the decision seeing as there was mountains . After all planes land themselves now should be a safety devise fitted to the computer
    The problem with any of these systems is the crew must be able to switch any system off because your must more likely to have electrical issues than crew intentionally crashing a plane.

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  • Scott
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    Very sad to see that another plain has gone down, the people on board must have been very scared, as said earlier in the thread, I cannot believe that in this day and age the computer on a plain does not take over and correct the flight path?

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  • Ryan
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    There are 30 million commercial flights every year. Chances of being involved in a fatal crash are very, very slim.
    Planes and regulations are safer than ever.
    However this looks like a preventable incident. Nobody should have to die because of a suicidal pilot.

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  • Wigan
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    On a kinda related note I would love to see the return of the zeppelin. Like ocean cruise ships but in the sky. Change the gas for a not explosive one and we are away

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