The Pinter - Homebrew

[ha_banos]

Was watching a programme last night about this but in the context of Monsanto. At agricultural scale. Also sounds a bit like Cuban seed! (Bringing back onto forum topics)

[Ahdinko1]

Haha, unfortunately alot of the "in" hops at the moment are proprietary. By that I mean they are usually bred in labs by scientists and trademarked, meaning noone other than their creating company can grow them. That's true for hops like Citra and Simcoe and why they can command such a price - noone else can get their hands on them to grow them. Where as you can order something like East Kent Goldings online and grow it in your garden!

[ha_banos]

I do indeed love a Timothy Taylor Landlord!
But yeah the price difference is largely down to the hops used. The hops in Landlord (east Kent goldings & Styrian goldings) are around £10 per kg. Compared to the most popular hop in the world right now which is Citra, which comes in around £35 per kg, you can see how the price can hugely differ depending on what goes in to it.

So this must be why Boris is trying to get so friendly with Biden!

[Ahdinko1]

Oh I wouldn't compare to Heinlein. Perhaps Timothy Taylor or Adnams. These types of ales are generally cheaper still than modern craft beers.

I'm a big fan of my local Goodness Brewery though! Which is next door to my gym 😉

I do indeed love a Timothy Taylor Landlord!
But yeah the price difference is largely down to the hops used. The hops in Landlord (east Kent goldings & Styrian goldings) are around £10 per kg. Compared to the most popular hop in the world right now which is Citra, which comes in around £35 per kg, you can see how the price can hugely differ depending on what goes in to it.

[ha_banos]

I think its more a symptom of the ingredient cost and economies of scale. Alot of 'craft' beer these days is very hop heavy ales focused around citrusy hops as that is currently all the rage. Lots of hops (especially some of the American proprietary hops which are very popular, and often 2-4x the price of a non-propreitary hop) can really bulk up the price. Plus a smaller brewery doesn't have the buying power and quantities to get the prices that someone like Heineken will.

Oh I wouldn't compare to Heinlein. Perhaps Timothy Taylor or Adnams. These types of ales are generally cheaper still than modern craft beers.

I'm a big fan of my local Goodness Brewery though! Which is next door to my gym 😉

[Ahdinko1]

Cask ales are mostly under 1.50£ for a 500ml bottle.

Craft beers carry a fashion tax 🤣

I think its more a symptom of the ingredient cost and economies of scale. Alot of 'craft' beer these days is very hop heavy ales focused around citrusy hops as that is currently all the rage. Lots of hops (especially some of the American proprietary hops which are very popular, and often 2-4x the price of a non-propreitary hop) can really bulk up the price. Plus a smaller brewery doesn't have the buying power and quantities to get the prices that someone like Heineken will.

[ha_banos]

Cask ales are mostly under 1.50£ for a 500ml bottle.

Craft beers carry a fashion tax 🤣

[Shaun]

I don't know what beers you are buying for £1.50 a pint in the supermarket but most of the decent 'craft' beers are substantially more than that!

[Ahdinko1]

I've been a beer homebrewer for 10 years or so, and I don't really "get" the pinter. It's the same as what we would call extract or kit brewing. That is where you get an amount of dark, syrupy liquid which is essentially condensed grain tea, plus some yeast. You dilute the extract with water, and add the yeast. 1 to 2 weeks later, you have beer.

Normally the upsides to home brewing is:
1. You have the freedom to make almost any beer in the world that you like with some ingredients.
2. It's considerably cheaper than buying beer.

Unfortunately the pinter doesn't have either of those upsides, as the price seems to come out at about £1.50 a pint which is the same as buying most beers in the supermarket, and you are constrained to using their packs which gives you much less choice and freedom than walking into a supermarket. As I count on their website right now, they offer 16 different beers. I think my local Tesco has something in the region of 100 different beers.

[Kickback]

Saw this advertised last night. I have a big enough spare fridge which I mainly use for beer anyway. Just not sure it’ll produce decent beer compared to buying small kegs from local breweries.

[panda23]

My son has one and I tried the pilsner but couldn't drink it because it was so bad. It was flatter than a witches tit

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[Sean]

I looked into this but my concern is the storage, it’s quiet a big unit to take up fridge space, the design of my kitchen my fridge is a under counter fridge, but what I watched on you tube it looks a good gadget,

I currently have the SUB which I love only let down is the torps (kegs) are only 2l so by the time you get rid of the first bit there’s only roughly 3 and a bit pints left


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[Old4bold]

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Could of saved best part of a grand doing this🤣 oh well never mind. I enjoy the full day it takes to brew 🤣🤣

[AlexD4]

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[Vitola]

Niels a short video on how it works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJUEei7IxuM&feature=emb_rel_end

and on a Mashable review it’s described as

“It's one of the real innovations of the Pinter, the Fresh Press: a bottle of molasses-looking liquid that is the result of skipping the malting, kilning, milling, and mashing bit of beer production. According to the website, the team “intensify the Presses by taking water out at no more than 65°C in a vacuum chamber” to lock in the flavour while it sits in the bottle waiting to be moved along in the brewing process by you. You just pour it into the Pinter at one stage, add yeast, and fill it up with water. That’s it. It’s this that might put off hardcore home brewers who respect the grinding labor of the craft and want total control over the process. But it’s also this that might attract newcomers to brewing, or those who don’t have the time or inclination to complete all the home brewing stages, but still want fresh beer on tap at home. It’s the same appeal and blight of coffee pod machines: baristas hate ‘em, busy people love ‘em.”