Ramon Allones pre-Castro "Private Stock" cigars

[Ryan]

Sorry, just realised you have one sealed box and one opened. Leave the seal intact. These are certainly worth hundreds of pounds, how many hundreds depends on the day. If there are stamps on the bottom of the box, do they say "Made in Havana, Cuba" or "Hecho en Cuba"? If "Hecho en Cuba", it means they were made after 1963 or thereabouts, post embargo. It may seem odd but 1960s post embargo cigars will often sell for more than pre.

[monkey66]

Two vendors you should speak to.

Mitch at cgars.co.uk and Ajay at havahavana.co.uk (la Casa de habanos in Teddington). You will then have an accurate market value. Nb - they may well need to see the cigars.

I wouldn't assume they are expired or otherwise and i wouldn't sell them (if they were mine) without consulting as above.

Hope this is helpful.


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[Eddie]

And just to clarify for Cigarnewbie12345. Mitch owns cgars.

What you studying by the way?

[Ryan]

Never say never when it comes to old cigars. It's hard to tell how cigars are from pictures. Those may not have been in a humidor for years but often, in this part of the world (we don't live in a desert), cigars will survive just fine and can be brought back to perfectly smokeable condition with a little patience.
With all respect, those cigars with their age, condition of the box, insert etc. are definitely worth something to somebody.
As has been said, Mitch's auction is probably the best bet for these. RA Private Stock are not unheard of but are rare enough (I would doubt very much if Mitch has auctioned a box of these before) that an auction is probably your best bet at getting a fair price. Bear in mind you'll have to pay fees but Mitch has access to more potential buyers than you probably do.
Good luck, let us know how you get on.

Edit. By the way, if they are as dry as you say, don't handle the individual cigars, they'll damage very easily. Don't try to rehumidify them yourself, it's not a dark art but there is a little bit of a knack to it. Keep the box closed, in a ziplock bag and in a cool place in your house until you get them to whomever wants to buy them/sell them for you.

[Cigarnewbie12345]

Gents, if I'm reading this thread correctly I don't think the lady is trying to sell the cigars here but is seeking the correct direction on getting them valued, sold within the cigar collectors establishment and not being ripped off.

Advise is being sort after,

We can do that can't we..?



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Thanks cohiba, that is indeed the case.

[peanutpete]

err is that not what i did

[cohibaIV]

Gents, if I'm reading this thread correctly I don't think the lady is trying to sell the cigars here but is seeking the correct direction on getting them valued, sold within the cigar collectors establishment and not being ripped off.

Advise is being sort after,

We can do that can't we..?



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[Stevieboy]

No "thanks?" about it. These cigars will almost definitely be crap if they've been out of a humidor. Dry, crispy, oil-free and desiccated...take your hundreds and run!

[Cigarnewbie12345]

if a cigar merchant already made him an offer i would say take it,i do not think anyone here would pay you "hundreds" of pounds for them if they have not been stored properly

Lol. "Thanks"?

[peanutpete]

if a cigar merchant already made him an offer i would say take it,i do not think anyone here would pay you "hundreds" of pounds for them if they have not been stored properly

[Cigarnewbie12345]

i am afraid if they have not been stored properly there is a very good chance that because of there age (the youngest they could be would be from early 70s i think) so maybe 40 years of no humidification that they are worth less as they would most likely have dried out beyond all hope

See that's weird, cos a cigar merchant has already offered him several hundred for them. I'm trying to figure out what's not stacking up here. Thanks anyway peanutpete.

[Cigarnewbie12345]

Please be sure to stick to the rules about the number of posts required before you sell anything (I am sure you have read these!)

Asking for advice about where to sell is no problem.

Sorry, erm yes, of course.

[peanutpete]

i am afraid if they have not been stored properly there is a very good chance that because of there age (the youngest they could be would be from early 70s i think) so maybe 40 years of no humidification that they are worth less as they would most likely have dried out beyond all hope

[nicwing]

Please be sure to stick to the rules about the number of posts required before you sell anything (I am sure you have read these!)

Asking for advice about where to sell is no problem.

[Cigarnewbie12345]

more images, in case they're helpful...

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