Ramon Allones pre-Castro "Private Stock" cigars

[EugeneSax]

Anyone puzzled by the yellow silk (assumed) band that says "Private Stock" and also says "Cabinet" in what is patently not a cabinet but a dress box?

[Stevieboy]

Just noticed that Mitch seems to be auctioning both of these with an estimate of ?600 - 800 on the open box. Heaven knows what the unopened box would be worth!!

http://www.cigarauctions.co.uk/ramon-allones-private-stock-p-11441.html

http://www.cigarauctions.co.uk/ramon-allones-private-stock-p-11440.html

[Cigarnewbie12345]

Will do. Thanks to everyone for their help.

[cohibaIV]

Fantastic Mitch, thanks. I'll put my father in touch with you.

Please keep us informed on how you get on..


Sent by smoke signals using iCohiba from Havana

[Ryan]

Yes. Because a die-hard collector has no intention of smoking them ..... only possessing them.

There is also the fact that a sealed box is more likely to contain original cigars, as described on the outside of the box. This has become more of an issue recently with many fake, unboxed "vintage" Dunhills and Davidoffs circulating.
Newbie has the best of both worlds with one open box, allowing inspection of the cigars and one sealed. I presuming that both boxes are of the same vintage and have been under the same storage conditions.

[tippexx]

Mitch - will die-hard collectors buy these without opening them to check the condition? Is the collectibility in the fact that it's a complete sealed box regardless of condition?

Yes. Because a die-hard collector has no intention of smoking them ..... only possessing them.

[Stevieboy]

Happy to offer free valuation and advice as ever sales@cgarsltd.co.uk may well be worth ?1000 + for full box but need to examine obviously

Best


Mitch

Mitch - will die-hard collectors buy these without opening them to check the condition? Is the collectibility in the fact that it's a complete sealed box regardless of condition?

[Cigarnewbie12345]

Happy to offer free valuation and advice as ever sales@cgarsltd.co.uk may well be worth ?1000 + for full box but need to examine obviously

Best


Mitch

Fantastic Mitch, thanks. I'll put my father in touch with you.

[Cigarnewbie12345]

Two vendors you should speak to.

Mitch at cgars.co.uk and Ajay at havahavana.co.uk (la Casa de habanos in Teddington). You will then have an accurate market value. Nb - they may well need to see the cigars.

I wouldn't assume they are expired or otherwise and i wouldn't sell them (if they were mine) without consulting as above.

Hope this is helpful.


Sent from tappy tap tap.

Thanks monkey. If my father needs to come up to Teddington I'll probably get lunch out of it, too, though I was rather hoping for dinner at Boisdales. Either way, result!

[Cigarnewbie12345]

And just to clarify for Cigarnewbie12345. Mitch owns cgars.

What you studying by the way?

Thanks Eddie. Corporate Secretaryship.

[Cigarnewbie12345]

Never say never when it comes to old cigars. It's hard to tell how cigars are from pictures. Those may not have been in a humidor for years but often, in this part of the world (we don't live in a desert), cigars will survive just fine and can be brought back to perfectly smokeable condition with a little patience.
With all respect, those cigars with their age, condition of the box, insert etc. are definitely worth something to somebody.
As has been said, Mitch's auction is probably the best bet for these. RA Private Stock are not unheard of but are rare enough (I would doubt very much if Mitch has auctioned a box of these before) that an auction is probably your best bet at getting a fair price. Bear in mind you'll have to pay fees but Mitch has access to more potential buyers than you probably do.
Good luck, let us know how you get on.

Edit. By the way, if they are as dry as you say, don't handle the individual cigars, they'll damage very easily. Don't try to rehumidify them yourself, it's not a dark art but there is a little bit of a knack to it. Keep the box closed, in a ziplock bag and in a cool place in your house until you get them to whomever wants to buy them/sell them for you.

I'm rarely glad to live in damp old England but that might change!

Thanks for your advice Ryan, will do as you suggest.

[seanbeer]

"stick a stick in", then someone can advise if its smokeable or not hahahaa

[smokeymo]

Happy to offer free valuation and advice as ever sales@cgarsltd.co.uk may well be worth ?1000 + for full box but need to examine obviously

Best


Mitch

[Ryan]

@Ryan...the box in the 1st pic has a perforate-edged seal. I'm pretty sure they're pre-embargo

Well spotted Stevie.

[Stevieboy]

@Ryan...the box in the 1st pic has a perforate-edged seal. I'm pretty sure they're pre-embargo