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  • TonyN
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    No point keeping cigars in your humidor taking room up knowing that your not going to enjoy them.
    In that situation what can you do like you said pass them on say to an occasional cigar smoker
    a christmas cigar smoker can you remember them miniture cigars that the occasional cigar smoker bought at christmas called tom thumb
    the christmas gift for men

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  • butternutsquashpie
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    Originally posted by TonyN View Post
    What will you do with them pass them on.
    most of the time

    i used to tresure all my bombs from everyone. but the problem is that if i KNOW i won't enjoy them... what's the point of smoking them, innit?
    cigars are meant to be enjoyed. so what do you want me to do!?

    Originally posted by Edamski View Post
    I brought Sig III's back for the in laws fully well knowing they won't be fully appreciated but couldn't not bring them back something a bit special.
    that's a nice thing to do, adam. hopefully they can get hooked, too!

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  • TonyN
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    Thats sounds fair enough

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  • Edamski
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    Originally posted by TonyN View Post
    I would treat people the same way i'd like to be treated rather not buy them anything than get crap cigars for them.
    I brought Sig III's back for the in laws fully well knowing they won't be fully appreciated but couldn't not bring them back something a bit special.

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  • TonyN
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    I would treat people the same way i'd like to be treated rather not buy them anything than get crap cigars for them.

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  • TonyN
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    Originally posted by butternutsquashpie View Post
    i have a mate do that every year at least once from Cuba. they know i like cigars and either a mate or relative brings them back.
    I smile, thank them, and toss them in the humi in a pouch.
    What will you do with them pass them on.

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  • Edamski
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    When I was in the airport looking at what they had for sale trying to make my mind up if I wanted a 10 or 25 count of Monte 4's I overheard a couple looking to bring back there lad a cigar.

    They started in front of the romeo's and commented on the prices then moved around onto the minis still not content and then BANG they saw the guantana's and they uttered the words "only $10 for 15" and got them.

    That's why they keep selling them. They appeal to the ignorant tourist.

    This has already been said though so nothing new just backing it up.

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  • TonyN
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    Yes but which one would you buy for him even though he can't tell the difference

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  • butternutsquashpie
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    Originally posted by TonyN View Post
    What would you think butternut if a relative went on holiday and bought you back a nice box of guantas.
    i have a mate do that every year at least once from Cuba. they know i like cigars and either a mate or relative brings them back.
    I smile, thank them, and toss them in the humi in a pouch.

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  • Budgie Smuggler
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    Originally posted by TonyN View Post
    why buy and smoke the guantas just because they are cheap if we don't like the flavour
    For the same reason some people drink cheap booze or crap ready meals, either because they are constrained by price or they just aren't discerning enough to tell the difference.

    Put Tesco "Value" whisky or a ?50 bottle of single malt in front if my Father in Law and he wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

    Some people just aren't bothered about such things.

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  • TonyN
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    Every one to their own i suppose in that situation i would rather buy a handfull of decent ones for a friend and pay whatever
    rather than a box of guantas for less money.
    What would you think butternut if a relative went on holiday and bought you back a nice box of guantas.

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  • butternutsquashpie
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    Originally posted by TonyN View Post
    I'm sure people that know little about cuban cigars won't make the same mistake twice
    for example why buy and smoke the guantas just because they are cheap if we don't like the flavour
    hence why won't make the same mistake twice.
    Guantanameras are bought for the following purposes:
    -Cuban travellers thinking 15 Dollars for 10 cigars is a great deal and buying a box.
    -Cuban travellers walking into any LCdH and getting the cheapest cigar thinking it's still a Cuban and has to be good
    -Cuban travellers smoking them and thinking they're okay only to smoke again
    -Cuban travellers continuously buying them for friends, bosses, neighbours, etc back home
    -Fancy packaging
    -Other people doing the same in their respective countries with the first 4 reasons
    -Me to give to friends
    -Some people just love the profile. Not I. God no, not I. But some people just do. (my friend's GF really loves them)

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  • TonyN
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    I'm sure people that know little about cuban cigars won't make the same mistake twice
    for example why buy and smoke the guantas just because they are cheap if we don't like the flavour
    hence why won't make the same mistake twice.

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  • Budgie Smuggler
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    Originally posted by TonyN View Post
    If thats the case would you say the brand guatanamera cigars are better sellers than say the partagas petite corona and the erdm gran coronas
    that have both been discontinued as an example look up the reviews on the guantas
    Crap flavour/quality is a different issue altogether than poor sales.

    The Guanos sell well as they are a cheap Cuban, so people that know little about cigars and want to buy Cuban go for those, unless of course money is no object in which case they would go for Cohiba or Monte as they are well known brands.

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  • Simon Bolivar
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    For me there are some surprising facts shown above. Firstly I agree, puro lovers, the sort that actually buy boxes & may have several hundred cigars at any one time, are a very small percentage of the total number of comsumers, most of whom probably smokes 1-3 different cigars & buy singles or a box at a time & replace it when it's finished. Most people who have a humi probably have a 25-50count & it's rarely full.
    One thought on the demise of the slim panatela vitolas, they were great for smaller more frequet smokes but with out door smoking being the norm now, it's either good enough weather & a decent enough reason to smoke - then a large smoke will do. If not it's probably peeing down & blowing a gale & 30-45 min smoke isn't going to appeal either.


    R&J's lesser % of revenue is probably accounted by the large number of cheaper end cigars like the Tubos 1,2 & 3, Sport Largos, Londres ect where the profit margins will be smaller. Personally surprised that Cohiba accounts for 10%+ of sales but not surprised they account for dble the revune. Significantly more than the Trini's although their are not much cheaper. JLP are as cheap as chips abroad & expalins their low revenue %.


    Boli, Punch & RA's aren't available world wide & thus this must restrict possible sales. Perhaps the type of leaves required for these brands is limited to start with & as stronger smokes have less appeal to the masses, might mean they are never going to have mass market appeal but us puro lovers can't get emnough of them, which is why they have had so many RE/LE releases, small volume high quality. Can't recall a bad RA RE?

    Nice to see Hoyo's just punching above their weight so hopefully most of that brand will continue a while yet.

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