Europe - In or out?

[Wigan]

I've seen it. The problem is that he speaks from the inside, of the theory of how things should work and struggles to hide his bias. Salesmanitis.
He doesn't discuss the flawed and failing common currency, one of the mainstays to the eu project, and how it is forcing southern member states into poverty on its way to collapse.
Nor does he discuss the way our theoretical influence translates in practice or not.
Nor that nigh on half of the peoples of Europe have an unfavourable view of the eu and its attitude to further political union (the other mainstay of the project) and by far the majority think powers should be returned to member state governments http://www.pewglobal.org/2016/06/07/...beyond-brexit/
Nor does he mention the continuing mismanagement of the devastating migrant crisis.

Did you read the first post?

[trying]

Is there any point posting links but not discussing them?

[PeeJay]

Is there any point posting links but not discussing them?

Wigan is right, that's not what this thread was for. Shamz could have started a new thread but I don't really care.

[SHAMZ84]

Wigan is right, that's not what this thread was for. Shamz could have started a new thread but I don't really care.

Sorry just didn't want to flood the forum with another similar thread....si thought I'd post the video on here. I'll add new thread. Sorry [MENTION=13402615]PeeJay[/MENTION]

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[PeeJay]

Sorry just didn't want to flood the forum with another similar thread....si thought I'd post the video on here. I'll add new thread. Sorry @PeeJay

Not a problem pal, its almost over anyway

[Niela]

I think I will not discuss this topic on this forum, I would just get too upset... :-D

[PeeJay]

Exactly, this is a forum for cigars and brotherhood

[Wigan]

Exactly, this is a forum for cigars and brotherhood

Like how Europe is a brotherhood and your saying we should stay in?

[PeeJay]

No we're a brotherhood, the EU is an oligarchy

[sheppsea]

No we're a brotherhood, the EU is an oligarchy

I would argue the opposite and that the problem with the EU is that it is not enough like an oligarchy; there are too many people involved. It is an incredibly complex organisation with 1,000s, if not 100,000s involved every step of the way

[PeeJay]

I would argue the opposite and that the problem with the EU is that it is not enough like an oligarchy; there are too many people involved. It is an incredibly complex organisation with 1,000s, if not 100,000s involved every step of the way

I'm not going to argue because I don't need to, I already know how I'm voting

[sheppsea]

I'm not going to argue because I don't need to, I already know how I'm voting

Not suggesting you should change your vote, or being argumentative

[butternutsquashpie]

If you end up leaving and with the Canadian economy bouncing back, you'll see a BREXIT and me entering your country. Perhaps let that sway your vote in two days

[Budgie Smuggler]

If you end up leaving and with the Canadian economy bouncing back, you'll see a BREXIT and me entering your country. Perhaps let that sway your vote in two days

VOTE REMAIN!


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[anz3001]

Im bored of it now. The Leave camp are clearly loudest but as we've seen in the past that'll probably (hopefully) not be the case come polling day.