Non-UK Retailers and Tax Evasion Discussions

[Simon-JG-hr]

There is also probably a Cigar Retailers group and the occasional little chat amongst themselves about prices wouldn't be unexpected.

Steady on now tippexx... That's verging on libellous...

[tippexx]

and what constitutes the difference?

Whatever the retailer want's it to be. As far as I'm aware unlike France, Germany and Spain where prices are Government fixed, there is no ceiling, there's probably a H&F RRP and the retailers are common sensed enough not to price themselves too far adrift or wide of the local competition. There is also probably a Cigar Retailers group and the occasional little chat amongst themselves about prices wouldn't be unexpected.

[srbmsun]

Everyone of these taboos would make for a cracking jolly good on-going discussion!

[ValeTudoGuy]

I'm sorry but let's kick this crap that cigars in the UK are so expensive because of tax. The UK tax on a julieta no 2 is ?2.

Interesting Ross, it's probably been covered before but is there a breakdown of a standard UK cigar costing?

I.E. What the retailer pays and what the consumer pays and what constitutes the difference?

[ValeTudoGuy]

I've just joined the forum and have been smoking Cubans for about 10 years now. I disagree that a Cohiba Robusto or any Siglo should be kept for special occasions, and would instead proffer that the act of lighting said cigar creates the special occasion.

There is something to be said that the right cigar can create the occasion, saying that I am guilty of saving my 'special' cigars for an occasions.

[srbmsun]

I've just joined the forum and have been smoking Cubans for about 10 years now. I disagree that a Cohiba Robusto or any Siglo should be kept for special occasions, and would instead proffer that the act of lighting said cigar creates the special occasion. I would like to counter the claim that cigar prices in the UK are not expensive due to the tax structure, but to do so would involve probably breaking the rules set forth by the moderator. One need only look at the disparity in price points even amongst EU member states to know that something is amiss. I think we can all agree that Prince John would be happy with the price point, while Robin of Locksley would have a conniption fit.

[Sligub]

I'm sorry but let's kick this crap that cigars in the UK are so expensive because of tax. The UK tax on a julieta no 2 is ?2.

[Stevieboy]

This is my first, and probably last, post. When a Romeo No2 costs ?3 from Geneva, and ?13 in Waitrose, something is horribly wrong with the country's taxation.

Amen to that amigo

....hang around, introduce yourself. Are you a regular cigar smoker yourself?

[ValeTudoGuy]

This is my first, and probably last, post. When a Romeo No2 costs ?3 from Geneva, and ?13 in Waitrose, something is horribly wrong with the country's taxation.

I don't think anyone here would disagree.... Now come in and have a chat! No need to go so soon.

[srbmsun]

This is my first, and probably last, post. When a Romeo No2 costs ?3 from Geneva, and ?13 in Waitrose, something is horribly wrong with the country's taxation.

[james.uk]

No duty or Vat at all. Treated as a outside eu place although its not.


Watches and Cigars.

[Maxsi]

Just for purposes of my knowledge and this being the perfect place to ask. Does Gibraltar have the same tax on tobacco products as the mainland UK?

Nope

[Sligub]

Just for purposes of my knowledge and this being the perfect place to ask. Does Gibraltar have the same tax on tobacco products as the mainland UK?

No gib has considerably less tax than the UK

[searsa1]

Just for purposes of my knowledge and this being the perfect place to ask. Does Gibraltar have the same tax on tobacco products as the mainland UK?

[Deano]

It was not my intention to cause a stir... So sorry if I have. I was just curious as to why we could not mention international sellers. It would be useful to know which ones were on the level but if that is not possible here then... No sweat. James.

Not a problem, has been a contentious issue in the past, needs re-clarifying every now and then